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  • That's what I want to know because to me there'd be two bodies if that happen a skinned body and a metal body wearing human skin, but but I think when Michael Afton aka Eggs Benedict was scooped only his innards came out hear, lungs, stomach, liver, kidneys even the intestines got removed by the scooper so Ennard can stuff his wires inside Michael Afton but later got puked out into the sewers after he completely becomes purple guy.

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    • I was trying to say Michael Afton got his heart, lungs, Stomach, Bladder, kidneys, liver and intestines removed by the scooper so Ennard can stuff his wires inside him, that's exactly how he becomes purple guy and has been living an undead life ever since even within Springtrap the animatronic suit he was trapped in. After he dismantled those animatronics to free the dead children.

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    • I have no idea how he could survive that.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: I have no idea how he could survive that.

      Of course after he manages to free the children so they can rest in peace he was force to remain unable to rest in peace because of his father William Afton and trying to free his little sister he accidently killed some children do to panicking because they were scared of him and he panicked causing him to kill them by accident but that's just a theory Scott's having scottgames and fnaf world talking to each other using their source code.

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    • If someone became ghost, why would they want to rest in peace when there are so many great things they could do? Maybe they could rest in peace for a few centuries, then possess androids and become part of a starship crew and explore the galaxy.

      I like to imagine that centuries after the spirits were freed, they rested for years and then, decided to possess androids that look like the anamatronics they were possessing, and then became a crew of a starship.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: If someone became ghost, why would they want to rest in peace when there are so many great things they could do? Maybe they could rest in peace for a few centuries, then possess androids and become part of a starship crew and explore the galaxy.

      I like to imagine that centuries after the spirits were freed, they rested for years and then, decided to possess androids that look like the anamatronics they were possessing, and then became a crew of a starship.

      Well I like the way you think.

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    • Well, if you're dead but, you became a spirit that can possess robots, you are pretty much immortal.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: Well, if you're dead but, you became a spirit that can possess robots, you are pretty much immortal.

      Only your body dies and that's it.

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    • Andrew.kos.397 wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote: Well, if you're dead but, you became a spirit that can possess robots, you are pretty much immortal.

      Only your body dies and that's it.

      Well, my body isn't the important part. I would trade my organic body for a robotic body any day. A robotic body doesn't have any of the weaknessess an organic body has and, if I'm a soul possessing a robot body, I could just possess another one after the first gets destroyed.

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    • Park Won-il wrote:

      Andrew.kos.397 wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote: Well, if you're dead but, you became a spirit that can possess robots, you are pretty much immortal.

      Only your body dies and that's it.

      Well, my body isn't the important part. I would trade my organic body for a robotic body any day. A robotic body doesn't have any of the weaknessess an organic body has and, if I'm a soul possessing a robot body, I could just possess another one after the first gets destroyed.

      I'm still keeping my organic body until it dies.

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    • Unfortunately, you can't possess a robotic body when you die.

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    • That's what the game is about.

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    • The game is fiction. It is like the Star Wars is about the force but, the force doesn't exist. It would be great if the force and possessing robots was real though.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: The game is fiction. It is like the Star Wars is about the force but, the force doesn't exist. It would be great if the force and possessing robots was real though.

      Tell me about it if I died and wanted to make sure nobody forgets me I would like to posses a robot to do so.

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    • William is Springtrap not Michael unless you'd like to explain how scooped corpses bleed and have guts showing also lets be honest the Michael Afton = killer theory wouldn't exist without SL Custom Night which violates the 4 games 1 story rule.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote: William is Springtrap not Michael unless you'd like to explain how scooped corpses bleed and have guts showing also lets be honest the Michael Afton = killer theory wouldn't exist without SL Custom Night which violates the 4 games 1 story rule.

      I'm pretty sure the blood might of been jest an effect because the mini games would show things that's not there and wouldn't show things that was.

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    • Why does Micheal appear to turn into Purple Guy in the custum night cutscene?

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    • Park Won-il wrote: Why does Micheal appear to turn into Purple Guy in the custum night cutscene?

      It seems he was purple guy if purple was undead because he was scooped because of those wires that replaced his organs, he turned bald and purple because of that reason and what remained of his flesh was mummified inside Springtrap. Plus if you look at Springtrap if William Afton was in there there would be blood but there's not because the blood in the mini games where purple guy get trapped inside Springtrap was there to show Michael Afton was trapped inside the suit so the part where he bleeds was just an effect to show he was trapped after he dismantled those animatronics so William Afton isn't the purple guy but Michael Afton is.

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    • I believe that Purple Guy is William Afton and, the mini game would have no reason to show blood if he didn't bleed. This is why it confuses me when Micheal appears to turn into Purple Guy. Purple Guy worked in Freddy Fazbear's but, I doubt he could if he looked like a walking purple corpse.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: I believe that Purple Guy is William Afton and, the mini game would have no reason to show blood if he didn't bleed. This is why it confuses me when Micheal appears to turn into Purple Guy. Purple Guy worked in Freddy Fazbear's but, I doubt he could if he looked like a walking purple corpse.

      I believe Michael Afton found ways to work there trying to find his father as he promised the boy who got his head crushed by Fredbear that he would put him back together.

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    • How did he find ways? Did people just got used to the idea that he is eccentially a walking corpse?

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    • It lies with the fact that he has been this whole time nobody thought he was but did think he was scary looking so they had him in work places where no customer could ever see him.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: How did he find ways? Did people just got used to the idea that he is eccentially a walking corpse?

      He can cover up his body with clothes.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: How did he find ways? Did people just got used to the idea that he is eccentially a walking corpse?

      Keep in mind we dont know if rotting corpse purple guy is the same as the other ones we have seen. Personally I dont think Purple Guy is necessarily rotting. I kinda looked behind the science and if his blood vessels are somehow still intact blood polling is the likely cause of his purple skin, as it can cause bruisung and there is also a disease related to blood polling that causes purple skin.

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    • A lot of people believe that Micheal is the same Purple Guy as the murderer but, I am not convinced.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: A lot of people believe that Micheal is the same Purple Guy as the murderer but, I am not convinced.

      How you find it weird that the ghost didn't leave in fnaf3 even after Willaim's death?

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    • Another person explaimed that, they needed to soothed by a somekind of party before they left.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: Another person explaimed that, they needed to soothed by a somekind of party before they left.

      He was trapped and couldn't rest in peace unless he get revenge on on his father William Afton.

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    • This getting revenge on one another is not going to get anywhere if everybody that dies becomes a spirit.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: This getting revenge on one another is not going to get anywhere if everybody that dies becomes a spirit.

      Not to mention that the revenge only causes more harm in the end (even by its definition).

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    • Even the most rightious nations that believe in justice want revenge but, Germany and Japan never want revenge for losing World War II.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: Even the most rightious nations that believe in justice want revenge but, Germany and Japan never want revenge for losing World War II.

      That's because those nation's were corrupted by an evil leader like North Korea.

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    • North Korea doesn't have an evil leader. It is the United States that has evil leaders.

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    • Andrew.kos.397 wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote: William is Springtrap not Michael unless you'd like to explain how scooped corpses bleed and have guts showing also lets be honest the Michael Afton = killer theory wouldn't exist without SL Custom Night which violates the 4 games 1 story rule.

      I'm pretty sure the blood might of been jest an effect because the mini games would show things that's not there and wouldn't show things that was.

      You can't use that logic otherwise theoretically we could all just pick and choose what we think is valid in every minigame. The logical explanation is because Purple Guy is very obviously a human being hence why he had a job at a children's place of entertainment, comically sweats when cornered by the kids and then bleeds and shows guts inside of Springtrap...and then there's the fact that Michael being the Purple Guy is a retcon as the story was finished after 4 and SL wasn't planned therefore unless someone can explain how Purple Guy is Michael without using SL no dice.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: North Korea doesn't have an evil leader. It is the United States that has evil leaders.

      Question, do people in N. Korea disappear?

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    • Yes they do. Those aliens keep abducting our citizens but, our government will find them and put an end to it once and for all! Just kidding. No body disappears in North Korea.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: Yes they do. Those aliens keep abducting our citizens but, our government will find them and put an end to it once and for all! Just kidding. No body disappears in North Korea.

      Ironically, a N. Korea defector came forward with a message releated to that. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/17/north-korean-commandos-ready-to-kidnap-americans-says-defector.html

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Andrew.kos.397 wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote: William is Springtrap not Michael unless you'd like to explain how scooped corpses bleed and have guts showing also lets be honest the Michael Afton = killer theory wouldn't exist without SL Custom Night which violates the 4 games 1 story rule.

      I'm pretty sure the blood might of been jest an effect because the mini games would show things that's not there and wouldn't show things that was.

      You can't use that logic otherwise theoretically we could all just pick and choose what we think is valid in every minigame. The logical explanation is because Purple Guy is very obviously a human being hence why he had a job at a children's place of entertainment, comically sweats when cornered by the kids and then bleeds and shows guts inside of Springtrap...and then there's the fact that Michael being the Purple Guy is a retcon as the story was finished after 4 and SL wasn't planned therefore unless someone can explain how Purple Guy is Michael without using SL no dice.

      Impossible, nobody can that's the point because SL is cannon to the story of FNaF.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote: Yes they do. Those aliens keep abducting our citizens but, our government will find them and put an end to it once and for all! Just kidding. No body disappears in North Korea.

      Ironically, a N. Korea defector came forward with a message releated to that. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/17/north-korean-commandos-ready-to-kidnap-americans-says-defector.html

      Foxnews is basically American propaganda. North Korea should kidnap people to help with the millitary like, they should kidnap German engineers so they can learn how to make better weapons. Imagine what we could do with a tank like the Leopard 2 instead of old soviet tanks.

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    • Park Won-il wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote: Yes they do. Those aliens keep abducting our citizens but, our government will find them and put an end to it once and for all! Just kidding. No body disappears in North Korea.

      Ironically, a N. Korea defector came forward with a message releated to that. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/17/north-korean-commandos-ready-to-kidnap-americans-says-defector.html

      Foxnews is basically American propaganda. North Korea should kidnap people to help with the millitary like, they should kidnap German engineers so they can learn how to make better weapons. Imagine what we could do with a tank like the Leopard 2 instead of old soviet tanks.

      Ok let's stick with FNaF we need to think of theories about the game.

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    • Park Won-il wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote: Yes they do. Those aliens keep abducting our citizens but, our government will find them and put an end to it once and for all! Just kidding. No body disappears in North Korea.

      Ironically, a N. Korea defector came forward with a message releated to that. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/17/north-korean-commandos-ready-to-kidnap-americans-says-defector.html

      Foxnews is basically American propaganda. North Korea should kidnap people to help with the millitary like, they should kidnap German engineers so they can learn how to make better weapons. Imagine what we could do with a tank like the Leopard 2 instead of old soviet tanks.

      Your government is pure propergenda. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-life-kim-jong-un-defector-reveal-song-byeok-propaganda-artist-dictatorship-a7726906.html

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    • Andrew.kos.397 wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote: Yes they do. Those aliens keep abducting our citizens but, our government will find them and put an end to it once and for all! Just kidding. No body disappears in North Korea.

      Ironically, a N. Korea defector came forward with a message releated to that. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/17/north-korean-commandos-ready-to-kidnap-americans-says-defector.html

      Foxnews is basically American propaganda. North Korea should kidnap people to help with the millitary like, they should kidnap German engineers so they can learn how to make better weapons. Imagine what we could do with a tank like the Leopard 2 instead of old soviet tanks.

      Ok let's stick with FNaF we need to think of theories about the game.

      Yes, as soon as Timetoscare admits that North Korea is the best country in the world and the United States is an evil imperilaist nation that has to be destroyed.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote: Yes they do. Those aliens keep abducting our citizens but, our government will find them and put an end to it once and for all! Just kidding. No body disappears in North Korea.

      Ironically, a N. Korea defector came forward with a message releated to that. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/17/north-korean-commandos-ready-to-kidnap-americans-says-defector.html

      Foxnews is basically American propaganda. North Korea should kidnap people to help with the millitary like, they should kidnap German engineers so they can learn how to make better weapons. Imagine what we could do with a tank like the Leopard 2 instead of old soviet tanks.

      Your government is pure propergenda. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-life-kim-jong-un-defector-reveal-song-byeok-propaganda-artist-dictatorship-a7726906.html

      Well, we have to keep our citizens loyal. If there is no U.S propaganda, you should be neutral about North Korea, rather than hating it because the media tells lies about it. The only reason life is hard for me in North Korea is, because I can't have a starship, but the United States doesn't have starships either.

      Dating, love, sex, drinking and video games in Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria. That pretty sums up the Five Nights of Debaucheries videos. I wish Mahlon would make more. They were very funny. *Kyle mode* activated* Where the fuck is is debauchery 5 Mahlon? You haven't made wank in months!

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    • Park Won-il wrote:

      Andrew.kos.397 wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote: Yes they do. Those aliens keep abducting our citizens but, our government will find them and put an end to it once and for all! Just kidding. No body disappears in North Korea.

      Ironically, a N. Korea defector came forward with a message releated to that. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/17/north-korean-commandos-ready-to-kidnap-americans-says-defector.html

      Foxnews is basically American propaganda. North Korea should kidnap people to help with the millitary like, they should kidnap German engineers so they can learn how to make better weapons. Imagine what we could do with a tank like the Leopard 2 instead of old soviet tanks.

      Ok let's stick with FNaF we need to think of theories about the game.

      Yes, as soon as Timetoscare admits that North Korea is the best country in the world and the United States is an evil imperilaist nation that has to be destroyed.

      Then where the fuck is the food in your country?

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    • Park Won-il wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote: Yes they do. Those aliens keep abducting our citizens but, our government will find them and put an end to it once and for all! Just kidding. No body disappears in North Korea.

      Ironically, a N. Korea defector came forward with a message releated to that. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/17/north-korean-commandos-ready-to-kidnap-americans-says-defector.html

      Foxnews is basically American propaganda. North Korea should kidnap people to help with the millitary like, they should kidnap German engineers so they can learn how to make better weapons. Imagine what we could do with a tank like the Leopard 2 instead of old soviet tanks.

      Your government is pure propergenda. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-life-kim-jong-un-defector-reveal-song-byeok-propaganda-artist-dictatorship-a7726906.html

      Well, we have to keep our citizens loyal. If there is no U.S propaganda, you should be neutral about North Korea, rather than hating it because the media tells lies about it. The only reason life is hard for me in North Korea is, because I can't have a starship, but the United States doesn't have starships either.

      Dating, love, sex, drinking and video games in Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria. That pretty sums up the Five Nights of Debaucheries videos. I wish Mahlon would make more. They were very funny. *Kyle mode* activated* Where the fuck is is debauchery 5 Mahlon? You haven't made wank in months!

      Even Alex Jones and Breitbart can't defend your country's ass, and they are the antithesis of the media.

      Fucking starships? Bitch, this is the real world! If you want to make citizens stay loyal to their leader, then you sould try helping them with the food shortages instead of playing fucking video games.

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    • Matt Florence defends North Korea. He made a video about the propaganda against North Korea.

      I yes, I know the starships aren't real, that is why life isn't the best. There is no food shortages in North Korea anymore. That was during the Arduous march. You need updated imformation. The media constantly states that North Korea has food shorages when, that was only during the Arduous march in the 1990s.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote:

      Andrew.kos.397 wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote: Yes they do. Those aliens keep abducting our citizens but, our government will find them and put an end to it once and for all! Just kidding. No body disappears in North Korea.

      Ironically, a N. Korea defector came forward with a message releated to that. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/17/north-korean-commandos-ready-to-kidnap-americans-says-defector.html

      Foxnews is basically American propaganda. North Korea should kidnap people to help with the millitary like, they should kidnap German engineers so they can learn how to make better weapons. Imagine what we could do with a tank like the Leopard 2 instead of old soviet tanks.

      Ok let's stick with FNaF we need to think of theories about the game.

      Yes, as soon as Timetoscare admits that North Korea is the best country in the world and the United States is an evil imperilaist nation that has to be destroyed.

      Then where the fuck is the food in your country?

      Did you ever went to North Korea to see if there is any food there? If you didn't, you would only know the image of North Korea the media wants you to believe.

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    • Andrew.kos.397 wrote: Impossible, nobody can that's the point because SL is cannon to the story of FNaF.

      Being canon is no excuse for a retcon, SL adds to the already complete story if you cannot give me a compelling argument for Michael being Purple Guy without using SL then I cannot accept your theory as Scott has stated the story can be solved with just the 4 games.

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    • How can Micheal be Purple Guy if, Micheal is a walking corpse but, somehow works in Freddy Fazbear's and bleeds from getting trapped in Spring Bonnie? Maybe it would be ok if he had the suit on all the time though.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: How can Micheal be Purple Guy if, Micheal is a walking corpse but, somehow works in Freddy Fazbear's and bleeds from getting trapped in Spring Bonnie? Maybe it would be ok if he had the suit on all the time though.

      My dear Park Won-il, you have just summarised beautifully why the Michael = Purple Guy theory doesn't work on every scale imaginable.

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    • Well, what confused people a lot of people is, that in the Golden Freddy mode cutscenes, Micheal looks like Purple Guy at the end. So people jumped to the conclusion that, Micheal is Purple Guy but, if he was Purple Guy all along, then he should of been purple at the beginning. Maybe most people believe that, people don't turn people, unless they are being suffocated which isn't the case with Micheal, so to many people, it was showing Micheal becoming Purple Guy. I don't think Purple Guy was really purple because, people are affaid of him when he turns purple as if he actually is purple.

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    • Go talk to Loch about that, he's my to-go-to guy on questions like that. My reasoning is that Michael turning purple funnily enough is actually what a corpse sometimes does plus Scott's not above misdirecting people.

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    • But, when we think of the living dead, we think of green zombies. Micheal's entire body turns purple, even though, he is wearing cloths. How do you explain that?

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    • Mabel his body does not get oxygen. You know, where your blood supposedly turns purple if it does not have any air. Mabel ennard's body blocked air coming into Arron's body.


      Also, my fish looks derp. :(

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    • But, Ennard was in Micheal for, days and weeks before Micheal turned purple. How did Eggs Benedict become Micheal Afton? Was it a fake name or, did the pad had an error and just selected a random name?

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    • The pad had an error, but how do you know when micheal turned purple?


      ...


      This fish awaits your reply...

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    • YES! I FIXED MY AVATOAR! NO MORE FISH!

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    • Chillerrr1234 wrote:
      Mabel his body does not get oxygen. You know, where your blood supposedly turns purple if it does not have any air. Mabel ennard's body blocked air coming into Arron's body.


      Also, my fish looks derp. :(

      forget the fish...

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    • The cutscenes appear to represent each morning so, it seems it took about a week to turn purple.

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    • Ahh, yes. I see. 

      wait. What does thie disscussion title mean by have his skin removed?

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    • Presumably, the scooper removed his skin so Ennard can wear it.

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    • Ughh...

      If that was true, then his flesh turned purple? Umm. Don't think that's possible. It would turn grey-ish. 

      Eesh. gonna have nightmares.

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    • Actually the scooper gutted him so his organs were removed to make room for only the wires.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: But, when we think of the living dead, we think of green zombies. Micheal's entire body turns purple, even though, he is wearing cloths. How do you explain that?

      The pancreas is full of so many bacteria that it essentially digests itself. As these organisms work their way to other organs, the body becomes discoloured, first turning green, then purple and then black.

      We see Michael turn green in the early stages of his rotting.

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    • So, zombies with different colors represent different stages of rotting?

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    • Park Won-il wrote: So, zombies with different colors represent different stages of rotting?

      Basically

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    • Park Won-il wrote: So, zombies with different colors represent different stages of rotting?

      It's a thing for people that aim for accuracy.

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    • Indeed

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    • Ok just to inform you that Eggs Benedict aka Purple Guy Baby was probably talking to Bellora but after he puked out the wires that fallen into the sewers Baby might of was ejected from Ennard because she wasn't in control anymore the animatronic that had voice manipulation probably kept Eggs Benedict aka Purple Guy alive and without Baby he murdered the children against his will because Baby was ejected. It's a theory from dewko

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    • Dawko...really? I'm disappointed then, normally he was the most reasonable and rational of the major FNAF theorists in the community. Ennard as a whole was ejected from Michael's body.

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    • It was clearly Ennard as a whole. Notice all the eyes. If it was just one animatronic, it would of been just two eyes.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: It was clearly Ennard as a whole. Notice all the eyes. If it was just one animatronic, it would of been just two eyes.

      Exactly, plus Michael's body was clearly boneless and empty the way it fell down not to mention Springtrap identifies as Michael not a congregation of animatronic AIs.

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    • How did he stood back up if he was boneless?

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    • Park Won-il wrote: How did he stood back up if he was boneless?

      Good question, let me answer your question with another question: Since when did FNAF care about being realistic?

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    • If FNAF disregards all physics and common sense, it makes it even more difficult to come up with theories. It is one thing to have ghosts but, it is another thing to disregard phyisics and common sense all together.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: How did he stood back up if he was boneless?

      I don't think he probably was boneless but having only his organs remove so some devices would fit inside like a voice mimic device plus it kinda make since that baby was ejected from Ennard because Ennard doesn't have it's own personality and instead of the personalities of all the animatronics of Circus Baby's Robotics and Rental because of the chance Baby is the little girl is still high but won't know until Scott makes another game that's how he got people it FNaF because he made it into a mistery horror game.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: If FNAF disregards all physics and common sense, it makes it even more difficult to come up with theories. It is one thing to have ghosts but, it is another thing to disregard phyisics and common sense all together.

      But it makes it easier to come up with a good story which is what we're actually looking for. Honestly, it's painful to watch when people come up with the most convoluted timelines/ boring history lessons and completely forget about including a narrative. I don't give a damn about how many pixels are in Fredbear's hat or whether a graphical glitch in a FNAF game may be intentional such overthinking kills good plotlines. I want characters with interesting motivations and personalities, themes that give meaning to the events and an overall plot which is interesting to invest attention towards.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: If FNAF disregards all physics and common sense, it makes it even more difficult to come up with theories. It is one thing to have ghosts but, it is another thing to disregard phyisics and common sense all together.

      Don't forget that the spirits in fnaf are actually extremely limited in their abilities.

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    • Maybe, older spirits have more abillities. Maybe that is why Golden Freddy can teleport and the Puppet can bring life and fly around very fast. Because they were the first victims of Willian Afton.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: Maybe, older spirits have more abillities. Maybe that is why Golden Freddy can teleport and the Puppet can bring life and fly around very fast. Because they were the first victims of Willian Afton.

      Nah. William would be powerful in fnaf3.

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    • He is basically Darth Vader in FNAF 3.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: He is basically Darth Vader in FNAF 3.

      Nightmare is more of a Darth Vader than William.

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    • Nah, he is more like Emperor Palpatine or, more of an embodyment of the dark side itself like the Son.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: Hah, he is more like Emperor Palpatine or, more of an embodyment of the dark side itself like the Son.

      William doesn't really strike me as a Palpatine ether.

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    • No, I meant Nightmare is more like Palpatine. Maybe Shawdow Freddy is like Palpatine or, Snoke.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: No, I meant Nightmare is more like Palpatine. Maybe Shawdow Freddy is like Palpatine or, Snoke.

      Nightmare fallen to the darkness due to his isolation and forced rebirth, the Puppet is the one who lead him to that dark path.

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    • I thought Nightmare was always evil in the FNAF story. The Puppet was just trying to bring back the children so he could get revenge on William Afton.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: I thought Nightmare was always evil in the FNAF story. The Puppet was just trying to bring back the children so he could get revenge on William Afton.

      The Puppet forcefully brought the children to life, he transform the children into monsters that will attack the innocent because they are driven by nothing but hate towards their killer.

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    • Hmmm.

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    • How did the Puppet come to life himself? I thought he was helping the children. Why do they attack innocent people because they want to kill their killer? That would be like if a country was invaded so, they decided to invade every country around them. Why would hate be the only thing driving them? Don't they think about anything else? There are very hateful people in this world but, I don't think hate is the only thing they're driven by.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: How did the Puppet come to life himself? I thought he was helping the children. Why do they attack innocent people because they want to kill their killer? That would be like if a country was invaded so, they decided to invade every country around them. Why would hate be the only thing driving them? Don't they think about anything else? There are very hateful people in this world but, I don't think hate is the only thing they're driven by.

      That comparison only strengthens my point even further, it exposes how mindless and cruel their decisions are in reality.

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    • So, they became like ISIS?

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    • Park Won-il wrote: So, they became like ISIS?

      Yep.

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    • It seems that, if William Afton didn't kill these children, they would of joined ISIS or, become serial killers. If I died and possessed a robot, I wouldn't go around killing innocent people, and I'm sure you wouldn't if you were in the same situtation. I guess ghosts can't reason as well as living people.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: It seems that, if William Afton didn't kill these children, they would of joined ISIS or, become serial killers. If I died and possessed a robot, I wouldn't go around killing innocent people, and I'm sure you wouldn't if you were in the same situtation. I guess ghosts can't reason as well as living people.

      Funny, Nightmare is actually the most reasonable ghost in the fnaf series.

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    • How is Nightmare reasonable? If I were one of the children that were murdered, I would try to find ways to prove who I am without scaring anybody. It could be difficult but, it is a better idea than to murder night guards. I would probably still want revenge on the killer but, I wouldn't kill anybody unless I was sure it was the right guy. Then I would continue my life as an animatronic.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: How is Nightmare reasonable? If I were one of the children that were murdered, I would try to find ways to prove who I am without scaring anybody. It could be difficult but, it is a better idea than to murder night guards. I would probably still want revenge on the killer but, I wouldn't kill anybody unless I was sure it was the right guy. Then I would continue my life as an animatronic.

      Nightmare doesn't kill random Nightguards. He kills his own father because he's isolated in fnaf3 and then he went after his older brother in fnaf4.

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    • I thought Nighmare dosesn't even exist and is just a nightmare of the Crying Child. How is Nightmare created and when does he kill his father?

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    • I honestly have no idea what the heck is happening to this.

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    • Referring back to the OP Michael didn't have anything removed. As explained by Scott in a steam comment the scooper simply made an incision in Michael's gut to which Ennard would then enter pushing out any insides that got in the way literally crawling into his skin (insert Linkin Park song reference here).

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    • Did Scott really said that? Where is the link?

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    • Park Won-il wrote: I thought Nighmare dosesn't even exist and is just a nightmare of the Crying Child. How is Nightmare created and when does he kill his father?

      Night 6 of fnaf4.

      I know why you think that, Scott was lazy and he made his AI exactly the same as N. Fredbear.

      He killed his father between fnaf3 and after he established Baby's pizza world.

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    • I meant I how is Nightmare real if he is just in Crying Child's nightmare? I've never seen Nightmare outside of FNAF 4, which takes place in a nightmare.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: I meant I how is Nightmare real if he is just in Crying Child's nightmare? I've never seen Nightmare outside of FNAF 4, which takes place in a nightmare.

      You seen him as "shadow Freddy".

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    • I don't know how do people keep coming up with the conclusion that Shawdow Freddy and Nightmare are the same character.

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    • It's obvious.

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    • Park Won-il wrote: Did Scott really said that? Where is the link?

      Somewhere on his Steam post history, can't be asked to find it again.

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    • Andrew.kos.397 wrote:
      That's what I want to know because to me there'd be two bodies if that happen a skinned body and a metal body wearing human skin, but but I think when Michael Afton aka Eggs Benedict was scooped only his innards came out hear, lungs, stomach, liver, kidneys even the intestines got removed by the scooper so Ennard can stuff his wires inside Michael Afton but later got puked out into the sewers after he completely becomes purple guy.

      Human skin isn't attached to the muscle tissue at all. It's merely held on by a layer of warm fat. Because the Scooper's strength and speed can be adjusted,it is powerful enough to separate the skin from the fat,skinning a person alive. But unfortunately,the person would die because their nerves are exposed to oxygen.

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    • Park Won-il wrote:
      If someone became ghost, why would they want to rest in peace when there are so many great things they could do? Maybe they could rest in peace for a few centuries, then possess androids and become part of a starship crew and explore the galaxy.

      I like to imagine that centuries after the spirits were freed, they rested for years and then, decided to possess androids that look like the anamatronics they were possessing, and then became a crew of a starship.

      FNaF Is a prequal to Desalite Hope confirmed!

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    • I was thinking more of a FNAF and Star Trek crossover.

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    • Ammnra2.0 wrote:

      Andrew.kos.397 wrote:
      That's what I want to know because to me there'd be two bodies if that happen a skinned body and a metal body wearing human skin, but but I think when Michael Afton aka Eggs Benedict was scooped only his innards came out hear, lungs, stomach, liver, kidneys even the intestines got removed by the scooper so Ennard can stuff his wires inside Michael Afton but later got puked out into the sewers after he completely becomes purple guy.

      The answer is that human skin isn't attached to the muscle tissue at all. It is merely held on by a layer of fat. Because the Scooper's strength and speed can be adjusted,it is powerful enough to separate the skin from the fat,skinning a person alive. But unfortunately,the person would die because their nerves are exposed to oxygen.

      That is the most painful way to die along with being burned alive, because that person would be feeling intense pain in every part of their body. The Aztecs used to kill people by skinning them alive, I am glad they don't exist anymore. I thought that would be so evil that, not even the most evil person to ever live would ever do such a thing.

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    • Park Won-il wrote:

      Ammnra2.0 wrote:


      Andrew.kos.397 wrote:
      That's what I want to know because to me there'd be two bodies if that happen a skinned body and a metal body wearing human skin, but but I think when Michael Afton aka Eggs Benedict was scooped only his innards came out hear, lungs, stomach, liver, kidneys even the intestines got removed by the scooper so Ennard can stuff his wires inside Michael Afton but later got puked out into the sewers after he completely becomes purple guy.
      The answer is that human skin isn't attached to the muscle tissue at all. It is merely held on by a layer of fat. Because the Scooper's strength and speed can be adjusted,it is powerful enough to separate the skin from the fat,skinning a person alive. But unfortunately,the person would die because their nerves are exposed to oxygen.
      That is the most painful way to die along with being burned alive, because that person would be feeling intense pain in every part of their body. The Aztecs used to kill people by skinning them alive, I am glad they don't exist anymore. I thought that would be so evil that, not even the most evil person to ever live would ever do such a thing.

      You need to remember that Ennard is the ultimate sociopath. He is not Circus Baby at all. She has a caring nature and is trying to protect the player from the others. Ennard literally has no emotion or feelings at all and doesn't even care what happens to others. When he was still alive,he didn't even cry at his father's funeral.

      He is the leader of the bullies and is very afraid of The Marionette,because he's one of the people he used to bully and is much more powerful than him. The Marionette is the 11 year old,male equivalent of Allesa Gillespie and Carrie White combined into one. He has every single psychokinetic ability known to man and even has a special gift. Resurgency- the ability to bring a person back to life.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote: I meant I how is Nightmare real if he is just in Crying Child's nightmare? I've never seen Nightmare outside of FNAF 4, which takes place in a nightmare.

      You seen him as "shadow Freddy".

      Acutually,that's his real appearance. The child's awake in the game. Nightmare is the shadow of Nightmare Fredbear and became a completely separate being. He feeds off of the fear and pain of others to gain a physical body.

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    • Ammnra2.0 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Park Won-il wrote: I meant I how is Nightmare real if he is just in Crying Child's nightmare? I've never seen Nightmare outside of FNAF 4, which takes place in a nightmare.

      You seen him as "shadow Freddy".

      Acutually,that's his real appearance. He is the shadow of Nightmare Fredbear and became a completely separate being. He feeds off of the fear and pain of others.

      He's actually the bite victim.

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    • Andrew.kos.397 wrote: After he dismantled those animatronics to free the dead children.

      Nothing confirmed that. He is far to be innocent.

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    • Xampshine wrote:

      Andrew.kos.397 wrote: After he dismantled those animatronics to free the dead children.

      Nothing confirmed that. He is far to be innocent.

      I don't think he came there to free the children. He did that accident. But I think he came there to look for a possessed Spring Bonnie suit that was mentioned in the fnaf3 phone calls.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Xampshine wrote:

      Andrew.kos.397 wrote: After he dismantled those animatronics to free the dead children.

      Nothing confirmed that. He is far to be innocent.
      I don't think he came there to free the children. He did that accident. But I think he came there to look for a possessed Spring Bonnie suit that was mentioned in the fnaf3 phone calls.


      He didn't came there to free the children because he's probably their murderer.

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    • Xampshine wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Xampshine wrote:

      Andrew.kos.397 wrote: After he dismantled those animatronics to free the dead children.

      Nothing confirmed that. He is far to be innocent.
      I don't think he came there to free the children. He did that accident. But I think he came there to look for a possessed Spring Bonnie suit that was mentioned in the fnaf3 phone calls.


      He didn't came there to free the children because he's probably their murderer.

      No. Even if it wasn't his goal, he destroyed the animatronics because he knows that the animatronics are murderers. They were an issue to achieve his goal.

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    • I can answer that, It's fictional !

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    • A FANDOM user
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