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    After a bit of thinking I realized something.

    Springtrap can't be Michael, here's why.

    We hear Springtrap moan in FNaF3.

    So why would he suddenly be able to speak clearly in SL?

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    • He just felt like moaning.

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    • Michael is not springtrap, Springtrap is his father

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    • Sister Location happens way before FNAF 3, so it kind of makes sense.

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    • Party Escort Bot = Beans wrote:
      After a bit of thinking I realized something.

      Springtrap can't be Michael, here's why.

      We hear Springtrap moan in FNaF3.

      So why would he suddenly be able to speak clearly in SL?

      you are correct... michael is not springtrap. infact take the picture with springtrap showing the skin.

      now  you see howd he be  alive with a endosceleton inside him? guess what thats the dieing parts of the purple guy. AND IF YOU THINK THATS RONG PAY ATTENTION TO THE LITTLE MINIGAMES AFTER V.HARD MODE! ENNARD IS INSIDE HIM!

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    • JEZZ

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    • Party Escort Bot = Beans wrote: After a bit of thinking I realized something.

      Springtrap can't be Michael, here's why.

      We hear Springtrap moan in FNaF3.

      So why would he suddenly be able to speak clearly in SL?

      What makes you think he was using his voice and not thinking to himself also why would Michael talk to some random guard, at this point he's acting like a wounded animal.

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    • Guys...Sl is their own different spinoff...

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    • Wellthatwantwell wrote: Guys...Sl is their own different spinoff...

      Go and watch the Custom Night minigames and cutscenes. Scott even said that the story would be done when updating us on the Golden Freddy Custom Night mode.

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    • springrap is obviously the nightguard and the nightguard is the flash so he so fast he is in two places at once

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    • Coolperson147 wrote: springrap is obviously the nightguard and the nightguard is the flash so he so fast he is in two places at once

      -_-

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote: Guys...Sl is their own different spinoff...

      Go and watch the Custom Night minigames and cutscenes. Scott even said that the story would be done when updating us on the Golden Freddy Custom Night mode.

      IT.A.SPIN.OFF.

      It mentioned it is and scott said he want to make it more kid-friendly with the story.

      http://www.parentherald.com/articles/73324/20161013/five-nights-freddys-movie-release-date-film-delayed-due-fnaf.htm

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    • Wellthatwantwell wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote: Guys...Sl is their own different spinoff...

      Go and watch the Custom Night minigames and cutscenes. Scott even said that the story would be done when updating us on the Golden Freddy Custom Night mode.

      IT.A.SPIN.OFF.

      It mentioned it is and scott said he want to make it more kid-friendly with the story.

      http://www.parentherald.com/articles/73324/20161013/five-nights-freddys-movie-release-date-film-delayed-due-fnaf.htm

      He also said it's canon so I'm using it regardless.

      You're talking about making the movie more kid-friendly right not SL because if you are and seriously think scooping out a humans innards and wearing that skin til it decays is kid friendly I have no words for you.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote:


      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote: Guys...Sl is their own different spinoff...

      Go and watch the Custom Night minigames and cutscenes. Scott even said that the story would be done when updating us on the Golden Freddy Custom Night mode.
      IT.A.SPIN.OFF.

      It mentioned it is and scott said he want to make it more kid-friendly with the story.

      http://www.parentherald.com/articles/73324/20161013/five-nights-freddys-movie-release-date-film-delayed-due-fnaf.htm

      He also said it's canon so I'm using it regardless.

      You're talking about making the movie more kid-friendly right not SL because if you are and seriously think scooping out a humans innards and wearing that skin til it decays is kid friendly I have no words for you.

      Do you read the article clearly? They delayed the movie so scott can make more chapers of this Sl spinoff.

      And yes I rather see that as much less gruesome/scary than a crazy serial killer, stuffing kids in the suit  and leaving them to hunt the nights.  A.I killer automaic? welcome to the Age of Automaic. But hey don't take my word for it, that what scott implied.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Coolperson147 wrote: springrap is obviously the nightguard and the nightguard is the flash so he so fast he is in two places at once

      no HE IS NOT THE FLASH. THERE. IS. NO. FASH. IN. FNAF.

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    • Wellthatwantwell wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote:


      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote: Guys...Sl is their own different spinoff...

      Go and watch the Custom Night minigames and cutscenes. Scott even said that the story would be done when updating us on the Golden Freddy Custom Night mode.
      IT.A.SPIN.OFF.

      It mentioned it is and scott said he want to make it more kid-friendly with the story.

      http://www.parentherald.com/articles/73324/20161013/five-nights-freddys-movie-release-date-film-delayed-due-fnaf.htm

      He also said it's canon so I'm using it regardless.

      You're talking about making the movie more kid-friendly right not SL because if you are and seriously think scooping out a humans innards and wearing that skin til it decays is kid friendly I have no words for you.

      Do you read the article clearly? They delayed the movie so scott can make more chapers of this Sl spinoff.

      And yes I rather see that as much less gruesome/scary than a crazy serial killer, stuffing kids in the suit  and leaving them to hunt the nights.  A.I killer automaic? welcome to the Age of Automaic. But hey don't take my word for it, that what scott implied.

      Fine by me, I'm digging this new spin on the FNAF story and I can't wait to see more of Michael.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote:


      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote:



      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote: Guys...Sl is their own different spinoff...

      Go and watch the Custom Night minigames and cutscenes. Scott even said that the story would be done when updating us on the Golden Freddy Custom Night mode.
      IT.A.SPIN.OFF.

      It mentioned it is and scott said he want to make it more kid-friendly with the story.

      http://www.parentherald.com/articles/73324/20161013/five-nights-freddys-movie-release-date-film-delayed-due-fnaf.htm

      He also said it's canon so I'm using it regardless.

      You're talking about making the movie more kid-friendly right not SL because if you are and seriously think scooping out a humans innards and wearing that skin til it decays is kid friendly I have no words for you.

      Do you read the article clearly? They delayed the movie so scott can make more chapers of this Sl spinoff.

      And yes I rather see that as much less gruesome/scary than a crazy serial killer, stuffing kids in the suit  and leaving them to hunt the nights.  A.I killer automaic? welcome to the Age of Automaic. But hey don't take my word for it, that what scott implied.

      Fine by me, I'm digging this new spin on the FNAF story and I can't wait to see more of Michael.

      maybe go off hunting his father? xp

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    • Well obviously but still he's a refreshing take on Purple Guy.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:
      Well obviously but still he's a refreshing take on Purple Guy.

      since this is a spinoff, which mark william is never the killer, why would mike want to go after him?

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    • Wellthatwantwell wrote:
      Starscream1998 wrote:
      Well obviously but still he's a refreshing take on Purple Guy.
      since this is a spinoff, which mark william is never the killer, why would mike want to go after him?

      William is the killer but the kids think Mike is William and cause him to run into the Springtrap suit. So I'm guessing revenge?

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    • I argee with the fact that Will is Springtrap and we play as Mike.How else would Mike put Baby back together, get scooped, take apart the main 4 in the Fnaf3 minigames, and then get put in a suit? It seems like the sister location robots thought Mike was Will as time went on, not Freddy and Co. While Night 6 ending isn't canon, we can assume that they did mean what they said in the Night as canon ("Didn't you want to see her again?") so that what Mike said about them 'thinking he was [Will]' would be true. Although, you would have to wonder why Mike was becoming more like his father as the time went on in the minigames; could it be symbolic of the sins of his father going to him? Plus, look at the images of Springtrap and Ennard side by side.

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    • AACMIV wrote:
      I argee with the fact that Will is Springtrap and we play as Mike.How else would Mike put Baby back together and then take apart the main 4 in the Fnaf3 minigames? It seems like the sister location robots thought Mike was Will as time went on, not Freddy and Co. While Night 6 ending isn't canon, we can assume that they did mean what they said in the Night as canon ("Didn't you want to see her again?") so that what Mike said about them 'thinking he was [Will]' would be true. Although, you would have to wonder why Mike was becoming more like his father as the time went on in the minigames; could it be symbolic of the sins of his father going to him?

      I think the only way we will know for sure is to wait for the new game.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:

      I think the only way we will know for sure is to wait for the new game.

      So...6 months? XD

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    • AACMIV wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:

      I think the only way we will know for sure is to wait for the new game.

      So...6 months? XD

      Yes XD. But yeah I'm also conflicted on whether mike or will is springtrap.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:

      Yes XD. But yeah I'm also conflicted on whether mike or will is springtrap.

      One thing is for sure though, they can not be the same person.

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    • AACMIV wrote:
      Thlayli22 wrote:

      Yes XD. But yeah I'm also conflicted on whether mike or will is springtrap.

      One thing is for sure though, they can not be the same person.

      That is for sure.

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    • Also Micheal dreamed this 0:00-0:57 :https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXgDNlxkeoY

      Notice that she keeps refering to him as 'Daddy' and she is directly talking to you. And in night 5, she is talking from a distance and is whispering to Baby instead, she's clearly trying to hide from 'Daddy'.

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    • my brain is beginning to hurt 

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    • Crystalwaterfall wrote:
      my brain is beginning to hurt 

      Mine did long ago, which is why I'm trying not to think about it until next game XD

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    • Crystalwaterfall wrote: my brain is beginning to hurt 

      From what?

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    • Michael "Mike" afton is William Afton's(Springtrap/Purple guy) son, MIke became some sort of shadow person [[1]] in the end while William is a undead-ghost possessing a animatronic suit.

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    • I read the article, in it, scott does not call it a spinoff, Parent Herald calls it a spinoff

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    • Timetoscare wrote:
      Also Micheal dreamed this 0:00-0:57 :https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXgDNlxkeoY

      Notice that she keeps refering to him as 'Daddy' and she is directly talking to you. And in night 5, she is talking from a distance and is whispering to Baby instead, she's clearly trying to hide from 'Daddy'.

      Again, in the Golden Fredy end, Mike did say that they thought he was Will; Mike is Will's son.

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    • Platinum Giratina wrote:
      Michael is not springtrap, Springtrap is his father


      I agree with you entirely. Hell, with a ending this elaborated, I cannot believe Scott's words on this not being canon anymore.

      I may create my own discussion thread to try and connect the dots.

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    • AACMIV wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:
      Also Micheal dreamed this 0:00-0:57 :https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uXgDNlxkeoY

      Notice that she keeps refering to him as 'Daddy' and she is directly talking to you. And in night 5, she is talking from a distance and is whispering to Baby instead, she's clearly trying to hide from 'Daddy'.

      Again, in the Golden Fredy end, Mike did say that they thought he was Will; Mike is Will's son.

      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/17/66/42/17664285c6e2510e491cc13bc518edbc.jpg

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    • Wellthatwantwell wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:
      Well obviously but still he's a refreshing take on Purple Guy.

      since this is a spinoff, which mark william is never the killer, why would mike want to go after him?

      Spin-off definition: A by-product of a larger project.

      We even see Fazbear's Fright in the background of the last cutscene so until Scott says SL has its own timeline I really don't see the need to make 3 timelines, the book was enough.

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    • Also William is definitely the killer
      FNAFSL Baby Blueprints

      Or do I need to go over these again?

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    • MaybeEvil wrote:
      I read the article, in it, scott does not call it a spinoff, Parent Herald calls it a spinoff

      It is a spinoff, as many articles mentioned. If it wasn't, we would already hear it from scott saying "it not a spinoff" in his defense. 


      Beside if it wasnt a spinoff,then Fnaf 1-Fnaf 4 wouldnt match up well with SL. It like a dounut, you take two pieces and put them together and there still a massive hole in the middle, representing that it doesnt match up. 

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    • Wellthatwantwell wrote:

      MaybeEvil wrote:
      I read the article, in it, scott does not call it a spinoff, Parent Herald calls it a spinoff

      It is a spinoff, as many articles mentioned. If it wasn't, we would already hear it from scott saying "it not a spinoff" in his defense. 


      Beside if it wasnt a spinoff,then Fnaf 1-Fnaf 4 wouldnt match up well with SL. It like a dounut, you take two pieces and put them together and there still a massive hole in the middle, representing that it doesnt match up. 

      Or maybe Scott doesn't read those articles...








      ...because chances are he's too busy actually sorting the movie and things out and besides the mere fact that there are screens of the FNAF 4 bedroom in SL's private room show that the game is interconnected with the timeline from the previous 4.

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    • Scott has only said this about SL in terms of lore: It's called Sister Location, MatPat found some more stuff and it's canon (both the actual game and the Custom Night minigames/cutscene)

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    • Wellthatwantwell
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    • ...because chances are he's too busy actually sorting the movie and things out and besides the mere fact that there are screens of the FNAF 4 bedroom in SL's private room show that the game is interconnected with the timeline from the previous 4.

      he wont be busy with the movie, heck he delayed it just to make more Sl's chapters. 

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    • if it was a canon, Then here we have is william working at freddy's killing kids. Then he goes off running his own company, and then laters want back to freddy's and become springtrap after being chased by the ghost. That sound pretty redundant and making it look like Wiliam cant make up his freaking mind where to go. 

      From what  I understand before SL, is William prob still an employee over at the morning shifts at freddy's during fnaf 1, fnaf 2 and fnaf 4.   Somehwere down the timeline in fnaf 1. William tries to get rid of the evidence of the missing kids by getting rid of the suits. Evenually to his own dimise, killed in a springtrap suit  while being chased by ghost kids. Leading to 30 years later,  in fnaf you have to defend yourself from springtrap who is william. The death of Will in fnaf is just a recons. 

      So if SL is happen during/after fnaf 3 because of the custom night cut scene with "fright fazbear" Then how in the world is william still alive to  start his own company "circus baby"? He already die right before fnaf 3. 

      This is what I understand, and to believe that yes, Sl is  a spinoff as it has already mentioned. Where Instead of William being the killer, he start off his own company and to his mistake of the A.I automatic killed his own daughter and having his son go after her. Mike is the new re-imgine  of the purple guy. which then leading to more chapters of SL later in the future as Scott mentioned.

      I just going to stick what I know feels right and make sense. Heck overall I dont even like how the plot for SL is being set up.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Also William is definitely the killer
      FNAFSL Baby Blueprints

      Or do I need to go over these again?

      Remember, Micheal created the original Funtime foxy (fnaf2 version) in his bedroom.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Also William is definitely the killer
      FNAFSL Baby Blueprints

      Or do I need to go over these again?

      Remember, Micheal created the original Funtime foxy (fnaf2 version) in his bedroom.

      We don't know if it was his bedroom. We also don't know if it was Funtime Foxy. We don't even know if it was a toy or an actual animatronic.

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    • Mike the Mechanic appears purple in the extended ending of Sister Location because the bodysuit (ennard in disguise.) was without oxigen/organs that is why it appeared purple in color, but i think it was also a easter egg to indicate that the Purple guy will be returning in the next game, in the very ending we see Springtrap, the current form of William Afton the Purple Guy.

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    • NewRob wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Also William is definitely the killer
      FNAFSL Baby Blueprints

      Or do I need to go over these again?

      Remember, Micheal created the original Funtime foxy (fnaf2 version) in his bedroom.

      We don't know if it was his bedroom. We also don't know if it was Funtime Foxy. We don't even know if it was a toy or an actual animatronic.

      Fnaf4 minigames take place before fnaf2.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      NewRob wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Also William is definitely the killer
      FNAFSL Baby Blueprints

      Or do I need to go over these again?

      Remember, Micheal created the original Funtime foxy (fnaf2 version) in his bedroom.

      We don't know if it was his bedroom. We also don't know if it was Funtime Foxy. We don't even know if it was a toy or an actual animatronic.

      Fnaf4 minigames take place before fnaf2.

      Who said Mike made FFoxy? Only you said that, and do you have any proof for this? Why does Mike have a girly room? Who's to say the Mangle in the bedroom is/is not FFoxy or an actual animatronic?

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    • FredbearGolden wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      NewRob wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Also William is definitely the killer
      FNAFSL Baby Blueprints

      Or do I need to go over these again?

      Remember, Micheal created the original Funtime foxy (fnaf2 version) in his bedroom.

      We don't know if it was his bedroom. We also don't know if it was Funtime Foxy. We don't even know if it was a toy or an actual animatronic.

      Fnaf4 minigames take place before fnaf2.

      Who said Mike made FFoxy? Only you said that, and do you have any proof for this? Why does Mike have a girly room? Who's to say the Mangle in the bedroom is/is not FFoxy or an actual animatronic?

      Micheal of course. ;)

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    • michael is the killer...WE SEE PURPLE GUY (MIKE) GET INTO SPRINGTRAP IN FNAF 3,AND IN SL,IN THE CUTSCENE,HE SAYS HE SHOULD BE DEAD,BECAUSE IN FNAF 3 HE BLED OUT BUT HE DIDNT DIE,AND HE SAYS IAM GOING TO COME FIND YOU AND THEN SPRINGTRAP SITS UP,SO ITS CLEAR MICHAEL IS IN THE SPRINGTrap

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    • EffiJeffy wrote: michael is the killer...WE SEE PURPLE GUY (MIKE) GET INTO SPRINGTRAP IN FNAF 3,AND IN SL,IN THE CUTSCENE,HE SAYS HE SHOULD BE DEAD,BECAUSE IN FNAF 3 HE BLED OUT BUT HE DIDNT DIE,AND HE SAYS IAM GOING TO COME FIND YOU AND THEN SPRINGTRAP SITS UP,SO ITS CLEAR MICHAEL IS IN THE SPRINGTrap

      Micheal killed his brother while he PRETENDS to be foxy.

      And this guy seems to be a fan of Foxy:https://i.ytimg.com/vi/C3MVGYtGN4w/maxresdefault.jpg

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    • NewRob wrote:
      He just felt like moaning.

      [insert sexual innuendo here]

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    • Ryutam wrote:

      NewRob wrote:
      He just felt like moaning.

      [insert sexual innuendo here]

      Time to fap to robots... Again.

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    • PARTY ESCORT BOT! There is a reason why springtrap is michael; the groaning you were talking about is just his pain. In the final cutscene of SL custom night, Michael says the spirits he lets free from the animatronics that he destroyed thought that he was William Afton. They wanted revenge so he got scared and hid into the spring trap suit. Only to bleed out. Then springtrap gets violent because of his father for killing the children. So, to conclude he wouldn't let anything get in his way! NOT EVEN THE NIGHTGUARD OF FNAF 3!!!!!!!!!! HE IS AFTER HIS OWN FATHER IN THE THIRD GAME. Anyone agree?


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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      FredbearGolden wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      NewRob wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Also William is definitely the killer
      FNAFSL Baby Blueprints

      Or do I need to go over these again?

      Remember, Micheal created the original Funtime foxy (fnaf2 version) in his bedroom.

      We don't know if it was his bedroom. We also don't know if it was Funtime Foxy. We don't even know if it was a toy or an actual animatronic.

      Fnaf4 minigames take place before fnaf2.

      Who said Mike made FFoxy? Only you said that, and do you have any proof for this? Why does Mike have a girly room? Who's to say the Mangle in the bedroom is/is not FFoxy or an actual animatronic?

      Micheal of course. ;)

      -_-

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    • Uuuuug, this whole thing with Purple Guy and Spring Trap is so confusing, it's even throw my RP into a tizzy. Is Spring Trap William or Michael? The Father or the Son? GOD DAMN IT SCOTT WE HAD EVERYTHING FIGURED OUT UNTIL NOW!!!! AND WHERE DOES SISTER LOCATION FIT ANYWAY?!?! SEEING SPRING TRAP AFTER 10/20 MODE SAYS AFTER FNAF 3 BUT EGGS BENEDICT'S HOUSE LOOKS LIKE IT'S FROM THE LATE 70'S!!!! *SIGH* I'm going to go cry into my basket of exotic butters now while listening to some casual bongos.

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    • Thunderstudent Returns wrote:
      Uuuuug, this whole thing with Purple Guy and Spring Trap is so confusing, it's even throw my RP into a tizzy. Is Spring Trap William or Michael? The Father or the Son? GOD DAMN IT SCOTT WE HAD EVERYTHING FIGURED OUT UNTIL NOW!!!! AND WHERE DOES SISTER LOCATION FIT ANYWAY?!?! SEEING SPRING TRAP AFTER 10/20 MODE SAYS AFTER FNAF 3 BUT EGGS BENEDICT'S HOUSE LOOKS LIKE IT'S FROM THE LATE 70'S!!!! *SIGH* I'm going to go cry into my basket of exotic butters now while listening to some casual bongos.

      It's quite easy to understand. I don't know why people are overcomplicating it, but I guess people here love complicated explanations to really simple things (see TSE). Michael is William Afton's son. He is for sure the Purple Guy in FNAF 3 and SL. He is the one in Springtrap.

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    • Springtrap/Purple Guy is William Afton, the father of Michael "Mike" Afton The mechanic/eggs bennedict, The Purple Guy was killed when he was gathering the evidences after He murdered the 5 children, he was destroying the animatronics in which he hid the corpses of the deceased children, their ghosts soon appeared to get their revenge on him, they trapped him in the Spring bonnie suit which was a hybrid of a animatronic robot and a suit, The pruple guy was crushed inside and he died, decades later he  returned as a undead zombie/ghost called Springtrap. He is not the playable character of sister location since the purple guy was allready dead by that time period in 2017, we play as his son, Mike he died when Ennard killed him in the scooping room and possessed his body like a "Suit". Ennard's victory was short-lived when the " skin suit" decayed and so Ennard was destroyed. Mike was ressurected by the ghost of his little sister, in the next game Mike will face his father William, which he is now Springtrap!

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    • You do realized that the children died many years before the purple guy returned to the FNAF 1 location. We are talking about a decade.

      There is no reason to come back to destroy the animatronics because of evidence. There's no evidence left at this point.

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    • Well the Purple guy did comeback to dismantle the animatronics, so the most plausible theory is that He returned to gather any evidence from the crime scene in order to avoid the Police.

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    • There's no evidence for that. Purple guy was already arrested for the missing children incident. He got off. And in the United States you can't be put on trial for the same offense twice. The murders happened a decade ago and the animatronics had been rebuilt a couple times. So any evidence is gone, he has no reason to show up to destroy evidence.

      Besides look at what's going in the FNAF 3 minigames. Purple guy was in the safe room. He didn't go there to destroy the animatronics. He did that out of fear. He was probably trying to steal or fix the springbonnie suit t use it for another set of murders.

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    • Bossihamham99 wrote:

      He did that out of fear.

      But then why was he smiling?

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    • Muh, either way I thought William's motive  for killing the kids is because  he just crazy or something. Like in Sliver eyes, he start ramble about something "giving them home" making sounded like he just delusional serial killer. With no family issue drama  or family member involve. I know sliver eye is a spinoff, but that little hint given of Will's motives make alot sense in the games and bonechiling. 

      that was my veiws on purple guy, a homocidal manic who has his own reason doing what he think  it right which is beyond our understanding. or prob have no reason why he does it. he just does it because he wants to. I like that idea better.

      But sadly after the custom night, and seeing how all it connected and the fact SL happen before all fnaf happend, just made the crime and the motive boring.  William become a murder because his own childern was killed and want to experiment on kids to see if they can survive in a automatics. 

      Egh...yet another typical motives of an killer because of family matter. Scott we have seen many other horror movie that involve murder due to family issues. Now we have angry  son who is after his father, which people expect it will be a final showdown between the two.

      What have this game become? street fighter or something? Must as well make the next game a figthing type game.

      I would thought it would involve or at least  devolope into something more unqiue, disturbed psychological issues    behind the motive of the purple guy (william)'s crimes. not some same old oh-boo-hoo-my-kids-was-killed-family-related-leading- to-committed-a-crime story that we heard so many in a horror stories. If only scott head toward that, where Will just kills because some other pyschlogical issues and reason other then family-related matter,  it would be more interesting to drive in the mindset of that and it could created a well written horror story.

      Hey don't scold at me, i think the motives for William's crime should have been better devolped and express into more dark and deep understanding mindset of a criminal other then he does it because he kids was killed. Weak sauce. I rather have scott not even show william (PG)'s motive at all. Like it to keep mystery and leading to think he does it because bluh bluh or bluh bluh. Man I missed the old days before SL was introduced...

      Thus I will end with this and the Fnaf itself,  its been fun putting these puzzle together, but the aftermath is not as exciting as it is. 

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    • Party Escort Bot = Beans wrote:

      Bossihamham99 wrote:

      He did that out of fear.

      But then why was he smiling?

      He's always smiling. He probably feels like he fooled the animatronics since they can't get him in the safe room.

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    • I know a lot of people are mad on how this turned out. Honestly, I like the series even more.. Always liked a plot twist.

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    • My personal opinion is even if Springtrap apperared, that doesn't mean Micheal is Springtrap. That could've just been that Afton/Springtrap escaped from Fazbears Fright. Doesn't make "Purple Guy" innocent, and make "Pink Guy" the killer.

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    • Butter100fly wrote:
      Platinum Giratina wrote:
      Michael is not springtrap, Springtrap is his father

      I agree with you entirely. Hell, with a ending this elaborated, I cannot believe Scott's words on this not being canon anymore.

      I may create my own discussion thread to try and connect the dots.

      Watch this and tell me who is spring trap, it is confusing to alot of people, even when SCOTT CAWTHON MADE ITTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvAZdap12a4

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    • TheZeroAssassin wrote:
      My personal opinion is even if Springtrap apperared, that doesn't mean Micheal is Springtrap. That could've just been that Afton/Springtrap escaped from Fazbears Fright. Doesn't make "Purple Guy" innocent, and make "Pink Guy" the killer.

      Michael is clearly the one inside Springtrap. The same Purple Guy Michael turns into at the end of SL goes into Springtrap.

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    • This whole thing is odd to me. Mostly it's people who do not have proper information, or disregard what is clearly shown in cutscenes or what Scott has specifically talked about. The lore may be fragmented in places but after these few revelations at the end of the custom nights should have brought it all together, but I guess some want to twist it so they don't have to admit that they're wrong.

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    • Yewt wrote: This whole thing is odd to me. Mostly it's people who do not have proper information, or disregard what is clearly shown in cutscenes or what Scott has specifically talked about. The lore may be fragmented in places but after these few revelations at the end of the custom nights should have brought it all together, but I guess some want to twist it so they don't have to admit that they're wrong.

      I don't care who is in the suit, nothing will ever change the fact that springtrap will always be my favorite.

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    • Yewt wrote:
      This whole thing is odd to me. Mostly it's people who do not have proper information, or disregard what is clearly shown in cutscenes or what Scott has specifically talked about. The lore may be fragmented in places but after these few revelations at the end of the custom nights should have brought it all together, but I guess some want to twist it so they don't have to admit that they're wrong.

      I think you have a point. But with something as wildly popular as FNAF, you're bound to have every opinion under the sun. Still, some people do take it a tad bit far. Just remember guys, it wasn't until the children had their happiest day years after the death in the Springtrap that their spirits could move on to the after life. What am I saying with this? I'm saying that the kids still got their happy ending, and Springtrap's identity wouldn't change that. That was the main beef had when I first saw the final cutscene, at least. I guess it is a pretty startling twist. I wonder how long Scott planned that. 

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    • HauntedMansion999 wrote:

      Michael is clearly the one inside Springtrap. The same Purple Guy Michael turns into at the end of SL goes into Springtrap.

      Having Michael not be Springtrap barely complicates things more than it already is. 

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    • Either Michael is Spring Trap and looking for his father or he's a rotting corpse looking for his father who is Spring Trap. While the former seems obvious on first appearance the second is plausible if you think about it. We know "her" means Baby but "they" could mean wither the Circus Baby animatronics or the Freddy Fazbear animatronics. either way things will hopefully be revealed in the next game.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:
      I know a lot of people are mad on how this turned out. Honestly, I like the series even more.. Always liked a plot twist.

      Lucky you, me in other hand I think this  become a iceberg  to my fandom. Scott has turned something special  into nothing but absurdity. Example,  how in the world could you still  be walking with 99% of your organs damages or possibly gone? 

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    • Noneofyourbus wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:
      I know a lot of people are mad on how this turned out. Honestly, I like the series even more.. Always liked a plot twist.

      Lucky you, me in other hand I think this  become a iceberg  to my fandom. Scott has turned something special  into nothing but absurdity. Example,  how in the world could you still  be walking with 99% of your organs damages or possibly gone? 

      Because video game logic. Plus I'm sure it will, maybe, be explained

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:

      Noneofyourbus wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:
      I know a lot of people are mad on how this turned out. Honestly, I like the series even more.. Always liked a plot twist.
      Lucky you, me in other hand I think this  become a iceberg  to my fandom. Scott has turned something special  into nothing but absurdity. Example,  how in the world could you still  be walking with 99% of your organs damages or possibly gone? 

      Because video game logic. Plus I'm sure it will, maybe, be explained

      Hope so, or something to bring me back to Fnaf itself haha. For now, I'm just gonna go back playing FNaF 1 and move up from till fnaf 4. That will be my shot glass and pretend this never happen. and hopefully that will bring me back to my "old fanboy" self. 

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    • Wellthatwantwell wrote: if it was a canon, Then here we have is william working at freddy's killing kids. Then he goes off running his own company, and then laters want back to freddy's and become springtrap after being chased by the ghost. That sound pretty redundant and making it look like Wiliam cant make up his freaking mind where to go. 

      From what  I understand before SL, is William prob still an employee over at the morning shifts at freddy's during fnaf 1, fnaf 2 and fnaf 4.   Somehwere down the timeline in fnaf 1. William tries to get rid of the evidence of the missing kids by getting rid of the suits. Evenually to his own dimise, killed in a springtrap suit  while being chased by ghost kids. Leading to 30 years later,  in fnaf you have to defend yourself from springtrap who is william. The death of Will in fnaf is just a recons. 

      So if SL is happen during/after fnaf 3 because of the custom night cut scene with "fright fazbear" Then how in the world is william still alive to  start his own company "circus baby"? He already die right before fnaf 3. 

      This is what I understand, and to believe that yes, Sl is  a spinoff as it has already mentioned. Where Instead of William being the killer, he start off his own company and to his mistake of the A.I automatic killed his own daughter and having his son go after her. Mike is the new re-imgine  of the purple guy. which then leading to more chapters of SL later in the future as Scott mentioned.

      I just going to stick what I know feels right and make sense. Heck overall I dont even like how the plot for SL is being set up.

      Until the day arrives where Scott puts out an announcement that SL is to be put in a separate continuity from the previous games arrive I will not put it in one and whether we chose to like the plot or not doesn't matter, what will be will be.

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    • Michael = Eggs Benedict = Purple Guy = Springtrap

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    • Xamp6 wrote: Michael = Eggs Benedict = Purple Guy = Springtrap

      Agreed.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Xamp6 wrote: Michael = Eggs Benedict = Purple Guy = Springtrap

      Agreed.

      I actually have nothing against him being Springtrap. I'm just happy that PG wasn't really Ennard, even though Ennard turned him purple.

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    • speaking of Ennard..what happen to him/her now???? Will we be hearing back from him/her?

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    • The purple guy died inside of Springtrap so that confirms he is the killer (the one and only!), Mike is now a show person, some sort of "Undead" he died after his father's death.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Xamp6 wrote: Michael = Eggs Benedict = Purple Guy = Springtrap

      Agreed.

      I actually have nothing against him being Springtrap. I'm just happy that PG wasn't really Ennard, even though Ennard turned him purple.

      Wonder what that pile of eyes and tentacles is doing down in the sewers?

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Xamp6 wrote: Michael = Eggs Benedict = Purple Guy = Springtrap

      Agreed.
      I actually have nothing against him being Springtrap. I'm just happy that PG wasn't really Ennard, even though Ennard turned him purple.
      Wonder what that pile of eyes and tentacles is doing down in the sewers?

      Hanging out.

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    • Tesshu wrote:
      The purple guy died inside of Springtrap so that confirms he is the killer (the one and only!), Mike is now a show person, some sort of "Undead" he died after his father's death.

      Yes ! He become a undead purplish man, and this makes sense that he is the killer. The children's souls recognized him easily due to his appearance, he can't be confused with his father.

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    • And he technically isn't Ennard since he threw him up at the end. So if Mike is the killer it's not Ennard making him kill since he is in control of his own body.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote: And he technically isn't Ennard since he threw him up at the end. So if Mike is the killer it's not Ennard making him kill since he is in control of his own body.

      Well HandUnit tells us at the beginning of SL that FFP is already got the whole murder thing going on and Michael isn't even Purple Guy yet so as you can tell I really don't see where this 'Mike = Killer' theory is coming from.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote: And he technically isn't Ennard since he threw him up at the end. So if Mike is the killer it's not Ennard making him kill since he is in control of his own body.

      Well HandUnit tells us at the beginning of SL that FFP is already got the whole murder thing going on and Michael isn't even Purple Guy yet so as you can tell I really don't see where this 'Mike = Killer' theory is coming from.

      Yeah I don't believe he is the killer. Sorry I said if he is, but I don't really believe he is

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    • No, i am saying that Mike is not the killer, his father William is, William is Springtrap/Purple Guy, Mike is a fake purple guy, the people were mistaken him with the purple guy when he was walking on the street after Ennard stole his body.

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    • That's getting unbearable.......

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote: And he technically isn't Ennard since he threw him up at the end. So if Mike is the killer it's not Ennard making him kill since he is in control of his own body.

      Well HandUnit tells us at the beginning of SL that FFP is already got the whole murder thing going on and Michael isn't even Purple Guy yet so as you can tell I really don't see where this 'Mike = Killer' theory is coming from.

      Yeah I don't believe he is the killer. Sorry I said if he is, but I don't really believe he is

      Don't worry, we all have days like that.

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    • Could it be possible that phone guy is the foxy loving brother?

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    • Thlayli22 wrote: Could it be possible that phone guy is the foxy loving brother?

      I wouldn't think so but things are in flux right now so maybe.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote: Could it be possible that phone guy is the foxy loving brother?

      I wouldn't think so but things are in flux right now so maybe.

      Well honestly the only thing I had on that theory is that they both like foxy. So it's probably not true.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:
      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote: Could it be possible that phone guy is the foxy loving brother?

      I wouldn't think so but things are in flux right now so maybe.
      Well honestly the only thing I had on that theory is that they both like foxy. So it's probably not true.

      You know, it's been statistically proven that most FNaF fans (especially furries) like Foxy, so if that also applies in FNaF, Phone Guy could literally be ANYONE.

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    • Party Escort Bot = Beans wrote:
      Thlayli22 wrote:
      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote: Could it be possible that phone guy is the foxy loving brother?

      I wouldn't think so but things are in flux right now so maybe.
      Well honestly the only thing I had on that theory is that they both like foxy. So it's probably not true.
      You know, it's been statistically proven that most FNaF fans (especially furries) like Foxy, so if that also applies in FNaF, Phone Guy could literally be ANYONE.

      That made me laugh.

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    • So I think Springtrap Moans in fnaf 3, Is Because he Feels pain. From my opinion, I assume that It had not been long after his death. In the cutscene, Fazbear's Fright Burned down. It was a week or two after, so He should be able to talk.


      This doesn't really have to do with the question but I felt the need to post this.

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    • COME-HANG-OUT wrote: So I think Springtrap Moans in fnaf 3, Is Because he Feels pain. From my opinion, I assume that It had not been long after his death. In the cutscene, Fazbear's Fright Burned down. It was a week or two after, so He should be able to talk.


      This doesn't really have to do with the question but I felt the need to post this.

      He does seem to be acting more like a wounded animal than a sadistic killer, the curse of being Springtrap takes its toll on even the most cold-blooded of people.

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    • Voice acting wasn't really thought of when Fnaf 3 was created

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    • Wellthatwantwell wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote: Guys...Sl is their own different spinoff...

      Go and watch the Custom Night minigames and cutscenes. Scott even said that the story would be done when updating us on the Golden Freddy Custom Night mode.

      IT.A.SPIN.OFF.

      It mentioned it is and scott said he want to make it more kid-friendly with the story.

      http://www.parentherald.com/articles/73324/20161013/five-nights-freddys-movie-release-date-film-delayed-due-fnaf.htm

      That was a troll

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    • Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote: Guys...Sl is their own different spinoff...

      Go and watch the Custom Night minigames and cutscenes. Scott even said that the story would be done when updating us on the Golden Freddy Custom Night mode.

      IT.A.SPIN.OFF.

      It mentioned it is and scott said he want to make it more kid-friendly with the story.

      http://www.parentherald.com/articles/73324/20161013/five-nights-freddys-movie-release-date-film-delayed-due-fnaf.htm

      That was a troll

      Either ways he is right, SL cannot be a part of the original story.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote: Guys...Sl is their own different spinoff...

      Go and watch the Custom Night minigames and cutscenes. Scott even said that the story would be done when updating us on the Golden Freddy Custom Night mode.

      IT.A.SPIN.OFF.

      It mentioned it is and scott said he want to make it more kid-friendly with the story.

      http://www.parentherald.com/articles/73324/20161013/five-nights-freddys-movie-release-date-film-delayed-due-fnaf.htm

      That was a troll

      Either ways he is right, SL cannot be a part of the original story.

      How?

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote: Guys...Sl is their own different spinoff...

      Go and watch the Custom Night minigames and cutscenes. Scott even said that the story would be done when updating us on the Golden Freddy Custom Night mode.

      IT.A.SPIN.OFF.

      It mentioned it is and scott said he want to make it more kid-friendly with the story.

      http://www.parentherald.com/articles/73324/20161013/five-nights-freddys-movie-release-date-film-delayed-due-fnaf.htm

      That was a troll

      Either ways he is right, SL cannot be a part of the original story.

      How?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuxQTVHfpV8&t=600s go to 8:38

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote: Guys...Sl is their own different spinoff...

      Go and watch the Custom Night minigames and cutscenes. Scott even said that the story would be done when updating us on the Golden Freddy Custom Night mode.

      IT.A.SPIN.OFF.

      It mentioned it is and scott said he want to make it more kid-friendly with the story.

      http://www.parentherald.com/articles/73324/20161013/five-nights-freddys-movie-release-date-film-delayed-due-fnaf.htm

      That was a troll

      Either ways he is right, SL cannot be a part of the original story.

      How?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuxQTVHfpV8&t=600s go to 8:38

      They've been extended.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantwell wrote: Guys...Sl is their own different spinoff...

      Go and watch the Custom Night minigames and cutscenes. Scott even said that the story would be done when updating us on the Golden Freddy Custom Night mode.

      IT.A.SPIN.OFF.

      It mentioned it is and scott said he want to make it more kid-friendly with the story.

      http://www.parentherald.com/articles/73324/20161013/five-nights-freddys-movie-release-date-film-delayed-due-fnaf.htm

      That was a troll

      Either ways he is right, SL cannot be a part of the original story.

      How?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuxQTVHfpV8&t=600s go to 8:38

      They've been extended.

      So Scott's now an inconsistent story-teller is he or need I remind you that FNAF 4 was the FINAL chapter of the ORIGINAL story and SL wasn't planned for?

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    • Scott told us we could solve FNAF with just games 1-4 before SL and SL contains bits of the novel and FNAF World so if anything it's part of their continuity.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote: Scott told us we could solve FNAF with just games 1-4 before SL and SL contains bits of the novel and FNAF World so if anything it's part of their continuity.

      And I connected Mike being the killer with stuff from fnaf1-fnaf4.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote: Scott told us we could solve FNAF with just games 1-4 before SL and SL contains bits of the novel and FNAF World so if anything it's part of their continuity.

      And I connected Mike being the killer with stuff from fnaf1-fnaf4.

      Suit yourself

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    • So I know Scott said the game was canon,, But he never really said canon with what, is it canon with the main games, the book, or Fnaf world?

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    • Thlayli22 wrote: So I know Scott said the game was canon,, But he never really said canon with what, is it canon with the main games, the book, or Fnaf world?

      I'd say the last two as it can actually fit in there without having to retcon literally everything.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote: So I know Scott said the game was canon,, But he never really said canon with what, is it canon with the main games, the book, or Fnaf world?

      I'd say the last two as it can actually fit in there without having to retcon literally everything.

      I agree, and it makes more sense to me.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote: So I know Scott said the game was canon,, But he never really said canon with what, is it canon with the main games, the book, or Fnaf world?

      I'd say the last two as it can actually fit in there without having to retcon literally everything.

      I agree, and it makes more sense to me.

      http://freddy-fazbears-pizza.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:2368015

      I even made a thread explaining it.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:
      So I know Scott said the game was canon,, But he never really said canon with what, is it canon with the main games, the book, or Fnaf world?

      He said the game was canon in a response to a question on whether it would be canon to the first four games. So it's canon to the first four games. The book is in an alternate universe and FNAF World isn't canon at all.

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    • HauntedMansion999 wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:
      So I know Scott said the game was canon,, But he never really said canon with what, is it canon with the main games, the book, or Fnaf world?

      He said the game was canon in a response to a question on whether it would be canon to the first four games. So it's canon to the first four games. The book is in an alternate universe and FNAF World isn't canon at all.

      Thank-you for clearing that up for me.

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    • Platinum Giratina wrote:
      Michael is not springtrap, Springtrap is his father

      Who the hell did we see in the Springtrap costume in the new animation then?

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    • SuperfluousHelium wrote:
      Platinum Giratina wrote:
      Michael is not springtrap, Springtrap is his father
      Who the hell did we see in the Springtrap costume in the new animation then?

      That's what everyone is trying to figure out. Right now, I'm leaning towards William but I feel it could be Mike too.

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    • SuperfluousHelium wrote:

      Platinum Giratina wrote:
      Michael is not springtrap, Springtrap is his father

      Who the hell did we see in the Springtrap costume in the new animation then?

      No one. It's just there to imply time.

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    • Dogemaster222 wrote:
      Party Escort Bot = Beans wrote:
      After a bit of thinking I realized something.

      Springtrap can't be Michael, here's why.

      We hear Springtrap moan in FNaF3.

      So why would he suddenly be able to speak clearly in SL?

      you are correct... michael is not springtrap. infact take the picture with springtrap showing the skin.

      now  you see howd he be  alive with a endosceleton inside him? guess what thats the dieing parts of the purple guy. AND IF YOU THINK THATS RONG PAY ATTENTION TO THE LITTLE MINIGAMES AFTER V.HARD MODE! ENNARD IS INSIDE HIM!

      Dogemaster222 wrote:
      Party Escort Bot = Beans wrote:
      After a bit of thinking I realized something.

      Springtrap can't be Michael, here's why.

      We hear Springtrap moan in FNaF3.

      So why would he suddenly be able to speak clearly in SL?

      you are correct... michael is not springtrap. infact take the picture with springtrap showing the skin.

      now  you see howd he be  alive with a endosceleton inside him? guess what thats the dieing parts of the purple guy. AND IF YOU THINK THATS RONG PAY ATTENTION TO THE LITTLE MINIGAMES AFTER V.HARD MODE! ENNARD IS INSIDE HIM!

      You do see the endoskeleton in him, or at least parts. In the pictures, you can see strips of metal peeking out of flesh around his mouth, almost as if pieces of Ennard got lodged in the surrounding tissue when they violently evacuated his body from his mouth.

      There could also be the possiblity that not all of Ennard left his body, since we see the multiple eyes but we do not see black wires, which could explain how he's able to reconstruct himself after vomitting Ennard into the sewer (I swear, if it's nano-machines...) Michael could've then went looking for his father, which lead him to the location where the first five kids were killed, expecting his father to have fled to one of his additional locations, but was confronted by the kids and he jumped into the Springtrap suit. We now have a purple guy in the Springtrap suit.

      If Micheal survived both the Scooping Room, and harboring an entire machine as a skin suit, isn't it more likely that he could also survive after getting spring-trapped. We don't know how much of the body was needed to be scooped in order to fit some, or all of Ennard, so it's possible he was left with enough to continue functioning after being worn like an animatronic suit. Ennard managed to stich up whatever was left of the body without any visually noticeable damage.

      Based on what we saw in the 8-bit clips after each custom night, Michael's skin was decaying until it turned purple for some reason, whether that's supposed to represent necrotic tissue or he literally started turning purple. The fact that Purple Guy is represented as solid purple, and referred to as a purple guy, I don't think he got his nickname for the color of his clothes he supposedly wears (for all we know he's running around naked, since we see him lose the shirt he was wearing at the start of the transformation, but kept his pants).

      Michael's actions that resulted in the accidental murder of his own brother are what led to his father's rapid descent into becoming a serial killer; he was already a child killer before, this just escalated it. Micheal may have already been involved somehow in his father's hobby before the incident, or after his father was now down two kids out of three, he got sucked into the family business, possibly through guilt or threats; William doesn't appear to be above abusing his own children to protect his reputation and continue murdering children.

      It's then possible that William and Michael could both be Purple Guy, but that brings up the question of who was where during certain events across the timeline; which Purple Guy was the killer primarily responsible for the majority of the murders we know of: William or Michael Afton? It seems like the early murders invloving the Crying Child and original five predate the deaths of William's two youngest kids, and were done without the intention of using them to further his research on how to put his two children back together using animatronics/robots as conduits; it could have even been a fluke that the original six children happened to posess the animatronics, and William discovered this science/magic after the fact.

      ::Working Theories::

      If Micheal is Springtrap, it's a mystery why he hung out in the back room for thirty some-odd years before getting transported to the location of FNAF 3 is hard to explain. Maybe Micheal didn't stay there and continued to look for his father; after all, he said he had been "living in the shadows." When Fazbear's Fright was announced, Michael headed there in hopes of finally pinning his father down before he disappeared again. After hanging around the attraction, terrorizing the night guard and staff in order to delay the opening of Fazbear's Fright in the hopes of getting William to possibly show up to investigate. Otherwise, if he stayed past opening day, he would be unable to leave due to the risk of being seen by all the park goers. When it doesn't go according to plan, he sets fire to the place (theory) to spite his father for everything. We see in the ending stinger that Springtrap survived the fire and is still hanging amongst the burned down remains.

      Perhaps William knew his son would to come after him, successful or not, but after what his animatronic experiments did to Michael, he fled. The Springtrap suit snagging Michael was a fluke, but it worked, and he was kept locked in the extra room of the FNAF 1 location, that Phone Guy in FNAF 3 says "every location is built with one", to keep him from leaving to hunt his dad down. Phone Guy was probably hired to make sure Springtrap remained in the room, and withhold information and act as a diversion during the day to keep people from getting curious and going anywhere near that room.

      We also know Purple Guy's favorite animatronic is Foxy based on the FNAF 3 death minigames, and in FNAF 4 we see that Michael's favorite is Foxy based on how he is always dressing up as him. Foxy also happens to be the Phone Guy's favorite animatronic as well. We all initially believed Phone Guy was Purple Guy and would have continued until it was revealed how Purple Guy died, whereas Phone Guy wouldn't have put one on, since knew how dangerous the suits were and warns you about the dangers of the spring-lock suit.

      But those are just my thoughts.

      I was disappointed at first with Sister Location for how short and unsatisfying it felt, but then it opened up immediately after discovering the hidden content in the alternate ending. I also haven't been able to get over the fact that Scott pulled a bait-and-switch on us with the identity of Purple Guy. It wasn't until MatPat's recent theory that it all clicked (Thank you Mat for reading Silver Eyes for us). I didn't see it coming at all, that Scott would reveal that the characters in the daytime sections of FNAF 4 were actually critical to the plot of Sister Location. He's done it before with 1 and 2 by having information put right in front of us, by it's so subtle until you go back with a comb and magnifying glass and then suddenly 'Bam!', it hits you and you spend so much time trying to make sense out of it. For all the times I thought Scott was just playing it by ear based on the reactions and theories of the community, it seems like he already had it all worked out when you go back and make connections with the new information.

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    • Party Escort Bot = Beans wrote:
      After a bit of thinking I realized something.

      Springtrap can't be Michael, here's why.

      We hear Springtrap moan in FNaF3.

      So why would he suddenly be able to speak clearly in SL?

      I think the moaning can be explained by the fact that anyone inside the suit, would have and extremely hard time getting food or water, especially when they are stuck in it. So the moaning could be Michael's last attempt at making any communication as he probably has sever dehydration as well as punctured lungs from the springlocks. So he could only talk so long as he had air to use.

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    • Michael didn't speak in FNAF 3 because why would he? He doesn't know the guard personally and seems to be more interested in either

      A) getting out

      B) venting his misery on you

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    • Why don't you all ask Mr. Michael aftons yourself then?

      https://www.odu.edu/directory/people/m/mafto001

      xp

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    • Wellthatwantreallywell wrote: Why don't you all ask Mr. Michael aftons yourself then?

      https://www.odu.edu/directory/people/m/mafto001

      xp

      -_-

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantreallywell wrote: Why don't you all ask Mr. Michael aftons yourself then?

      https://www.odu.edu/directory/people/m/mafto001

      xp

      -_-

      what?  its a joke haha. it just pop up while  googled michael afton's name.

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    • Wellthatwantreallywell wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Wellthatwantreallywell wrote: Why don't you all ask Mr. Michael aftons yourself then?

      https://www.odu.edu/directory/people/m/mafto001

      xp

      -_-

      what?  its a joke haha. it just pop up while  googled michael afton's name.

      You're hilarious

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    • If this theory on Michael is true, there is 2 purple guys. Which would make a whole lot of sense as Michael looks like his father, and would have a grudge against the FNAF 3 protagonist, because they keep watch on the cameras. So he can't escape.

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    • Thunderstudent Returns wrote:
      Uuuuug, this whole thing with Purple Guy and Spring Trap is so confusing, it's even throw my RP into a tizzy. Is Spring Trap William or Michael? The Father or the Son? GOD DAMN IT SCOTT WE HAD EVERYTHING FIGURED OUT UNTIL NOW!!!! AND WHERE DOES SISTER LOCATION FIT ANYWAY?!?! SEEING SPRING TRAP AFTER 10/20 MODE SAYS AFTER FNAF 3 BUT EGGS BENEDICT'S HOUSE LOOKS LIKE IT'S FROM THE LATE 70'S!!!! *SIGH* I'm going to go cry into my basket of exotic butters now while listening to some casual bongos.

      SL is set at roughly the same time as FNaF 4. Upon decoration the fnaf 4 maingame house, william probably didn;t care too much about what furniture he bought, and ended up buying a lamp that can be seen in the EON cutscenes in SL. Therefore, considering the advanced AI in the funtimes (which seems impossible to make back then) it's probably a short-ish time after fredbear's.

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    • DoctorFazbear wrote:

      Thunderstudent Returns wrote:
      Uuuuug, this whole thing with Purple Guy and Spring Trap is so confusing, it's even throw my RP into a tizzy. Is Spring Trap William or Michael? The Father or the Son? GOD DAMN IT SCOTT WE HAD EVERYTHING FIGURED OUT UNTIL NOW!!!! AND WHERE DOES SISTER LOCATION FIT ANYWAY?!?! SEEING SPRING TRAP AFTER 10/20 MODE SAYS AFTER FNAF 3 BUT EGGS BENEDICT'S HOUSE LOOKS LIKE IT'S FROM THE LATE 70'S!!!! *SIGH* I'm going to go cry into my basket of exotic butters now while listening to some casual bongos.

      SL is set at roughly the same time as FNaF 4. Upon decoration the fnaf 4 maingame house, william probably didn;t care too much about what furniture he bought, and ended up buying a lamp that can be seen in the EON cutscenes in SL. Therefore, considering the advanced AI in the funtimes (which seems impossible to make back then) it's probably a short-ish time after fredbear's.

      The blueprints have been analyzed and it turns out that SL takes place after 1991 or 1996.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      DoctorFazbear wrote:

      Thunderstudent Returns wrote:
      Uuuuug, this whole thing with Purple Guy and Spring Trap is so confusing, it's even throw my RP into a tizzy. Is Spring Trap William or Michael? The Father or the Son? GOD DAMN IT SCOTT WE HAD EVERYTHING FIGURED OUT UNTIL NOW!!!! AND WHERE DOES SISTER LOCATION FIT ANYWAY?!?! SEEING SPRING TRAP AFTER 10/20 MODE SAYS AFTER FNAF 3 BUT EGGS BENEDICT'S HOUSE LOOKS LIKE IT'S FROM THE LATE 70'S!!!! *SIGH* I'm going to go cry into my basket of exotic butters now while listening to some casual bongos.
      SL is set at roughly the same time as FNaF 4. Upon decoration the fnaf 4 maingame house, william probably didn;t care too much about what furniture he bought, and ended up buying a lamp that can be seen in the EON cutscenes in SL. Therefore, considering the advanced AI in the funtimes (which seems impossible to make back then) it's probably a short-ish time after fredbear's.
      The blueprints have been analyzed and it turns out that SL takes place after 1991 or 1996.

      Really? Then... How could Mike be PG if that's true?

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      DoctorFazbear wrote:

      Thunderstudent Returns wrote:
      Uuuuug, this whole thing with Purple Guy and Spring Trap is so confusing, it's even throw my RP into a tizzy. Is Spring Trap William or Michael? The Father or the Son? GOD DAMN IT SCOTT WE HAD EVERYTHING FIGURED OUT UNTIL NOW!!!! AND WHERE DOES SISTER LOCATION FIT ANYWAY?!?! SEEING SPRING TRAP AFTER 10/20 MODE SAYS AFTER FNAF 3 BUT EGGS BENEDICT'S HOUSE LOOKS LIKE IT'S FROM THE LATE 70'S!!!! *SIGH* I'm going to go cry into my basket of exotic butters now while listening to some casual bongos.

      SL is set at roughly the same time as FNaF 4. Upon decoration the fnaf 4 maingame house, william probably didn;t care too much about what furniture he bought, and ended up buying a lamp that can be seen in the EON cutscenes in SL. Therefore, considering the advanced AI in the funtimes (which seems impossible to make back then) it's probably a short-ish time after fredbear's.

      The blueprints have been analyzed and it turns out that SL takes place after 1991 or 1996.

      How exactly?
      FNAFSL Baby Blueprints

      I don't see a date anywhere.

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    • I dont think scott wouldn't make it  harder and confusing for us to have two purple guy. Especiailly when he is in a 8-bit version. We can't even tell which are which by a 8-bit version, if there are "two". So there can only be one purple guy. and that is Mike. William is just happen to be another character playing a important role. People always thought William is the purple guy bec of the silver eye. let not forget that dave miller never mentioned his real name.

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    • It's best if we leave TSE alone and let it be its own thing as it was intended to be and besides it's a far superior story to the games in terms of coherence anyway.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:
      It's best if we leave TSE alone and let it be its own thing as it was intended to be and besides it's a far superior story to the games in terms of coherence anyway.

      yeh i know, but it still would be hard to determine which  is which in a 8-bit version, if there are two purple guy.  i dont think scott wouldn't do this to us, that would be hell or mess uphaha.

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    • Agreed, there may be similarities between William and Michael's sprites but what is Michael is Michael and what is William is William. The skinny one with the hunched neck who looks every bit the sprite we see in those Custom Night minigames would be Michael and the lighter one with no visible neck and stockier is fat and affable William.

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    • Maybe Scott is acting like Kojima, by giving us some sort of plot twist in the end of Sister's location.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      DoctorFazbear wrote:

      Thunderstudent Returns wrote:
      Uuuuug, this whole thing with Purple Guy and Spring Trap is so confusing, it's even throw my RP into a tizzy. Is Spring Trap William or Michael? The Father or the Son? GOD DAMN IT SCOTT WE HAD EVERYTHING FIGURED OUT UNTIL NOW!!!! AND WHERE DOES SISTER LOCATION FIT ANYWAY?!?! SEEING SPRING TRAP AFTER 10/20 MODE SAYS AFTER FNAF 3 BUT EGGS BENEDICT'S HOUSE LOOKS LIKE IT'S FROM THE LATE 70'S!!!! *SIGH* I'm going to go cry into my basket of exotic butters now while listening to some casual bongos.
      SL is set at roughly the same time as FNaF 4. Upon decoration the fnaf 4 maingame house, william probably didn;t care too much about what furniture he bought, and ended up buying a lamp that can be seen in the EON cutscenes in SL. Therefore, considering the advanced AI in the funtimes (which seems impossible to make back then) it's probably a short-ish time after fredbear's.
      The blueprints have been analyzed and it turns out that SL takes place after 1991 or 1996.

      Really? Then... How could Mike be PG if that's true?

      He's more likely to be the pink guy from fnaf2 (https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ChEJa_EIR8E/VeSii0PZrSI/AAAAAAAABnE/V7n3998IvtA/s1600/maxresdefault%2B%25281%2529.jpg). (I don't think mike is springtrap) edit: wrong picture

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    • William Afton is springtrap because the cutscene after you beat golden Freddy mode on the sl custom night you hear springtrap saying 'I did what you asked me to' so that means that he did what his son asked him to do to save his sister baby but he died in the process, ennard (aka baby or bellora not sure) lived in him for a while then got spat out into the sewer therefore forcing William aftons soul back into the body. Then he eventually went into the springlock suit, dying and turning into springtrap, which explains the ending Cutscene of custom night. Sorry if it's too long but it's helpful right?

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    • Also... mike is NOT purple guy William afton is purple guy as revealed in the books. And micheal afton and his sister are the only children of mr.afton

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      DoctorFazbear wrote:

      Thunderstudent Returns wrote:
      Uuuuug, this whole thing with Purple Guy and Spring Trap is so confusing, it's even throw my RP into a tizzy. Is Spring Trap William or Michael? The Father or the Son? GOD DAMN IT SCOTT WE HAD EVERYTHING FIGURED OUT UNTIL NOW!!!! AND WHERE DOES SISTER LOCATION FIT ANYWAY?!?! SEEING SPRING TRAP AFTER 10/20 MODE SAYS AFTER FNAF 3 BUT EGGS BENEDICT'S HOUSE LOOKS LIKE IT'S FROM THE LATE 70'S!!!! *SIGH* I'm going to go cry into my basket of exotic butters now while listening to some casual bongos.

      SL is set at roughly the same time as FNaF 4. Upon decoration the fnaf 4 maingame house, william probably didn;t care too much about what furniture he bought, and ended up buying a lamp that can be seen in the EON cutscenes in SL. Therefore, considering the advanced AI in the funtimes (which seems impossible to make back then) it's probably a short-ish time after fredbear's.

      The blueprints have been analyzed and it turns out that SL takes place after 1991 or 1996.

      How exactly?
      FNAFSL Baby Blueprints

      I don't see a date anywhere.

      LLC

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:
      Agreed, there may be similarities between William and Michael's sprites but what is Michael is Michael and what is William is William. The skinny one with the hunched neck who looks every bit the sprite we see in those Custom Night minigames would be Michael and the lighter one with no visible neck and stockier is fat and affable William.

      hmm okay so i guessing also, another  keys is the one with the budget is michael (as it shown in the wiki). so that saying michael worked at freddy fazbear s as a guard, assuming under the name dave miller. which that lead to him being responsible for the mishab at freddy's and being trapped in springtrap not William. idk mike also have different shades of purples thoughout the game and is also a bit shubbish (as it shown in the wiki), so i'm still a bit skeptical about that of all the purple guy appereaces, it possible they're all one person. but again it hard to tell in a 8-bit version.  But i think i going to stick with what you said just to be on the safe side, since it is possible a son can be like a father. 

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    • "Father. It's me, Michael. I did it. I found it. It was right where you said it would be. They were all there. They didn't recognize me at first but then they thought I was you. And I found her. I put her back together, just like you asked me to. She's free now. But something is wrong with me. I should be dead. But I'm not. I've been living in shadows. There is only one thing left for me to do now. I'm going to come find you. I'm going to come find you."

      -Springtrap, FNAF SL

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    • Skelts wrote:
      Also... mike is NOT purple guy William afton is purple guy as revealed in the books. And micheal afton and his sister are the only children of mr.afton

      heres a problem, I think the reason why everyone thinks William is the purple guy is becasue TSE book. Then was told that the book shouldn't count as the game. So why do people even bother saying William is also  the purple guy in the games as well? Yes The book did mentioned William afton  but never comfirmed that Dave miller's real name is  William. And such it made it sound like William afton is the culprit  but that doesnt mean William is dave miiler. They even made it sound like Henry might be a cuprit.  do you find it a bit strange that dave or anyone who are in investigation never once says "you are not dave miller, your real name is William afton". strange enough that usually a  mystery books would always reveled the culprit's real name. I think scott done that on purpose not to have Dave or anyone mentioned his  real name. To keep it open minded that anyone can be the purple guy under the name "dave miller'. I think SL just answered that. just saying. dont want to drop the "william is the purple guy" conclusion bomb when Dave miller or anyone else never said what's his real name was.

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    • Wellthatwantreallywell wrote:

      Skelts wrote:
      Also... mike is NOT purple guy William afton is purple guy as revealed in the books. And micheal afton and his sister are the only children of mr.afton

      heres a problem, I think the reason why everyone thinks William is the purple guy is becasue TSE book. Then was told that the book shouldn't count as the game. So why do people even bother saying William is also  the purple guy in the games as well? Yes The book did mentioned William afton  but never comfirmed that Dave miller's real name is  William. And such it made it sound like William afton is the culprit  but that doesnt mean William is dave miiler. They even made it sound like Henry might be a cuprit.  do you find it a bit strange that dave or anyone who are in investigation never once says "you are not dave miller, your real name is William afton". strange enough that usually a  mystery books would always reveled the culprit's real name. I think scott done that on purpose not to have Dave or anyone mentioned his  real name. To keep it open minded that anyone can be the purple guy under the name "dave miller'. I think SL just answered that. just saying. dont want to drop the conclusion bomb when Dave miller or anyone else never said what's his real name was.

      Michael has used cover up names.

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    • Wellthatwantreallywell wrote: SNLmpJv.gif

      And the "it's me, Michael" thing

      http://freddy-fazbears-pizza.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:2376281?useskin=oasis

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    • Agreed, If william is the PG why would  he put up a massage "its me". like who is he trying to get attention? also if Sl is before all the fours games, why would william give up his company just to work at freddy fazbear to kill children? and if SL is after the fanf 2, the place would been already close down right before michael could give that "it me" massage during fanf 2 and 1.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      DoctorFazbear wrote:

      Thunderstudent Returns wrote:
      Uuuuug, this whole thing with Purple Guy and Spring Trap is so confusing, it's even throw my RP into a tizzy. Is Spring Trap William or Michael? The Father or the Son? GOD DAMN IT SCOTT WE HAD EVERYTHING FIGURED OUT UNTIL NOW!!!! AND WHERE DOES SISTER LOCATION FIT ANYWAY?!?! SEEING SPRING TRAP AFTER 10/20 MODE SAYS AFTER FNAF 3 BUT EGGS BENEDICT'S HOUSE LOOKS LIKE IT'S FROM THE LATE 70'S!!!! *SIGH* I'm going to go cry into my basket of exotic butters now while listening to some casual bongos.

      SL is set at roughly the same time as FNaF 4. Upon decoration the fnaf 4 maingame house, william probably didn;t care too much about what furniture he bought, and ended up buying a lamp that can be seen in the EON cutscenes in SL. Therefore, considering the advanced AI in the funtimes (which seems impossible to make back then) it's probably a short-ish time after fredbear's.

      The blueprints have been analyzed and it turns out that SL takes place after 1991 or 1996.

      How exactly?
      FNAFSL Baby Blueprints

      I don't see a date anywhere.

      LLC

      United States Limited Liability Company act dates back to 1977, that literally proves nothing whatsoever in regards to your theory.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      DoctorFazbear wrote:

      Thunderstudent Returns wrote:
      Uuuuug, this whole thing with Purple Guy and Spring Trap is so confusing, it's even throw my RP into a tizzy. Is Spring Trap William or Michael? The Father or the Son? GOD DAMN IT SCOTT WE HAD EVERYTHING FIGURED OUT UNTIL NOW!!!! AND WHERE DOES SISTER LOCATION FIT ANYWAY?!?! SEEING SPRING TRAP AFTER 10/20 MODE SAYS AFTER FNAF 3 BUT EGGS BENEDICT'S HOUSE LOOKS LIKE IT'S FROM THE LATE 70'S!!!! *SIGH* I'm going to go cry into my basket of exotic butters now while listening to some casual bongos.

      SL is set at roughly the same time as FNaF 4. Upon decoration the fnaf 4 maingame house, william probably didn;t care too much about what furniture he bought, and ended up buying a lamp that can be seen in the EON cutscenes in SL. Therefore, considering the advanced AI in the funtimes (which seems impossible to make back then) it's probably a short-ish time after fredbear's.

      The blueprints have been analyzed and it turns out that SL takes place after 1991 or 1996.

      How exactly?
      FNAFSL Baby Blueprints

      I don't see a date anywhere.

      LLC

      United States Limited Liability Company act dates back to 1977, that literally proves nothing whatsoever in regards to your theory.

      I didn't made the theory, it's somewhere on Reddit and it goes into littl more detail about it.

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    • Cool, got a link?

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    • Too bad for him/her, 1991 is not the correct date that LLC legislation began but 1977 thus the theory falls apart.

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    • I read this about LLC. It became availble in Wyoming in 1977 but most other States didn't start using it until 1990. So unless SL takes place in Wyomming.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote: Too bad for him/her, 1991 is not the correct date that LLC legislation began but 1977 thus the theory falls apart.

      Didn't they just explained that 1977 has nothing to do with every state in America?

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    • Michael is Springtrap. In the springtrap cutscene in SL michael's ghost is speaking. (JUST MY SMALL THEORY)

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    • Saturn314x wrote: Michael is Springtrap. In the springtrap cutscene in SL michael's ghost is speaking. (JUST MY SMALL THEORY)

      How is that an argument?

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    • Just take a listen to Michael in the Final Cutscene and Springtrap's Moan in FNaF 3. ;) Compare them, and they sound very familar.

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    • KingAlex105X wrote: Just take a listen to Michael in the Final Cutscene and Springtrap's Moan in FNaF 3. ;) Compare them, and they sound very familar.

      And corpses don't bleed.

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    • Remember he's a possessed dead body(after a ceratin amount of time) and still has some of his organs and stuff.

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    • I honestly can't tell anything by that moan, sounds garbled to me, like it could be either Mike's or William's voice.

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    • Its sounds robotic atleast right? like in the Final Cuscene?

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    • KingAlex105X wrote:
      Its sounds robotic atleast right? like in the Final Cuscene?

      Yeah. It does.

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    • Well there's more evdience to support the guy who speaks in the cutscene is Springtrap(cuz some people thought the person who speaks in it wasn't Springtrap) Also the Final Line makes it even more supportive cuz it sounds even more like the moan.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:

      KingAlex105X wrote:
      Its sounds robotic atleast right? like in the Final Cuscene?

      Yeah. It does.

      It's done for dramatic effect.

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    • Are you srly kidding me... That is his voice in the Cutscene the music playing is something totally different form the voice.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:

      KingAlex105X wrote:
      Its sounds robotic atleast right? like in the Final Cuscene?
      Yeah. It does.
      It's done for dramatic effect.

      To me, mroe evidence points to William being PG and Mike being a some sort of ghoul type thihng.  But if it turns out Mike is the pG I mean, that's okay.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:

      KingAlex105X wrote:
      Its sounds robotic atleast right? like in the Final Cuscene?
      Yeah. It does.
      It's done for dramatic effect.

      To me, mroe evidence points to William being PG and Mike being a some sort of ghoul type thihng.  But if it turns out Mike is the pG I mean, that's okay.

      Micheal is more likely to be the rumored pink guy from fnaf2 than fnaf2. Even his shirt matches that sprite's color.

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    • If you notice in Sprintrap's left jumpscare he raises his eyelids/eyebrows like he made a mistake (I've make a thread about it somewhere).

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:


      KingAlex105X wrote:
      Its sounds robotic atleast right? like in the Final Cuscene?
      Yeah. It does.
      It's done for dramatic effect.
      To me, mroe evidence points to William being PG and Mike being a some sort of ghoul type thihng.  But if it turns out Mike is the pG I mean, that's okay.
      Micheal is more likely to be the rumored pink guy from fnaf2 than fnaf2. Even his shirt matches that sprite's color.

      I wish we knew exact date of SL. But I get the feeling it happens after at least 1,2,4. 

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    • More evidence shows it takes place around FNAF 2 and  after FNAF 4, also FNAF 4's time takes place entirely inside the Sister Location presumily before the arrival of the Player. I feel like ppl forget about that fact...

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    • But with Handunit saying Freddy's closed and it's still opened in 1 and 2. To me saying something closed sounds like it closed for good not closed only for a while.

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    • Sister Location wasn't avaluable to the public until after the FNAF 2 pizzeria closed. But things still happened in it when it wasn't avaulable also I think the FNAF 2 astablishment might of hired Circus Baby's and Baby cause the bite of 87' at the party, but idk.

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    • KingAlex105X wrote:
      Sister Location wasn't avaluable to the public until after the FNAF 2 pizzeria closed. But things still happened in it when it wasn't avaulable also I think the FNAF 2 astablishment might of hired Circus Baby's and Baby cause the bite of 87' at the party, but idk.

      Well whether mike or Will is PG. it won't ruin my love of FNAF.

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    • Same here, Same here.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:


      KingAlex105X wrote:
      Its sounds robotic atleast right? like in the Final Cuscene?
      Yeah. It does.
      It's done for dramatic effect.
      To me, mroe evidence points to William being PG and Mike being a some sort of ghoul type thihng.  But if it turns out Mike is the pG I mean, that's okay.
      Micheal is more likely to be the rumored pink guy from fnaf2 than fnaf2. Even his shirt matches that sprite's color.

      I wish we knew exact date of SL. But I get the feeling it happens after at least 1,2,4. 

      Well it's somewhere on 1991 or 1996.

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    • It Probably takes place after FNAF 2, but existed during and before FNAF 2.

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    • KingAlex105X wrote: It Probably takes place after FNAF 2, but existed during and before FNAF 2.

      It has to be after Fazbears sold their rights to Afton's robotics.

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    • I have a little known fact about FNAF 2, if you look at the poster for Toy Freddy it says "U Ready?" possibly referring they use some kind of fast way to communitate in words(without speaking)  in FNAF 2.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote: Too bad for him/her, 1991 is not the correct date that LLC legislation began but 1977 thus the theory falls apart.

      Didn't they just explained that 1977 has nothing to do with every state in America?

      1991 has even less to do with every state in America and FNAF isn't guaranteed to be set in Texas so the theory still fails by assuming locations.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote: Too bad for him/her, 1991 is not the correct date that LLC legislation began but 1977 thus the theory falls apart.

      Didn't they just explained that 1977 has nothing to do with every state in America?

      1991 has even less to do with every state in America and FNAF isn't guaranteed to be set in Texas so the theory still fails by assuming locations.

      Didn't the paychecks also relied on assumed locations? So these theories fall apart as well.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote: Too bad for him/her, 1991 is not the correct date that LLC legislation began but 1977 thus the theory falls apart.

      Didn't they just explained that 1977 has nothing to do with every state in America?

      1991 has even less to do with every state in America and FNAF isn't guaranteed to be set in Texas so the theory still fails by assuming locations.

      Didn't the paychecks also relied on assumed locations? So these theories fall apart as well.

      No, the pay checks relied on simple math and dates with the only point of controversy being that FNAF 1 could of been in either 1993 or 2003.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote: Too bad for him/her, 1991 is not the correct date that LLC legislation began but 1977 thus the theory falls apart.

      Didn't they just explained that 1977 has nothing to do with every state in America?

      1991 has even less to do with every state in America and FNAF isn't guaranteed to be set in Texas so the theory still fails by assuming locations.

      Didn't the paychecks also relied on assumed locations? So these theories fall apart as well.

      No, the pay checks relied on simple math and dates with the only point of controversy being that FNAF 1 could of been in either 1993 or 2003.

      Simple math wasn't the only thing you did! Minimum wages rely on specific states.

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    • It also says most other states didn't start LLC until 1990.

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    • I really hope Scott clears this all up in FNAF 6. The more you think about the end scene the more ways it can be interpreted. We obviously play as Michael but who is Spring Trap? Although watching Matpat's most recent video besides the parts where he says we lay as William and not Michael, everything makes sense. Also is William in the book really William? Or is it Michael posing as his father trying to draw him out? A fake killer who is the shell of the man he once was trying to draw his father into the open? Having had to experiment with Spring Lock Suits causing the scars on his body, a sentient, half alive zombie that can still heal. All in an elaborate plan to find his father after willingly giving his body to harbor his sister and all the other animatronics who make up Enard? All this with Charlie, her friends and the Fazbear Animatronics all caught in the crossfire.

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    • Scott needs to tell us what from Real life doesn't apply in FNAF, we already know Phone Numbers don't (From Scottgames.com )

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    • KingAlex105X wrote: Scott needs to tell us what from Real life doesn't apply in FNAF, we already know Phone Numbers don't (From Scottgames.com )

      That only applies to RL businesses.

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    • You do know when Scott was teasing the FNAF 4 teasers ppl tried calling companies and using coordinates to try to find secrets, That's why Scott said theres no phone numbers assituated to the game.

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    • Mike could still be Springtrap but his father was the killer. I could be wrong but maybe the ghost kids saw Mike and saw he was "purple" like his father, thought maybe he was Will and killed him.. Just a thought.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote: Mike could still be Springtrap but his father was the killer. I could be wrong but maybe the ghost kids saw Mike and saw he was "purple" like his father, thought maybe he was Will and killed him.. Just a thought.

      Mike was referencing SL.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote: Mike could still be Springtrap but his father was the killer. I could be wrong but maybe the ghost kids saw Mike and saw he was "purple" like his father, thought maybe he was Will and killed him.. Just a thought.

      Mike was referencing SL.

      Which is why it was just a thought. I'm staying with the two PG theory until I get evidence pointing otherwise.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote: Mike could still be Springtrap but his father was the killer. I could be wrong but maybe the ghost kids saw Mike and saw he was "purple" like his father, thought maybe he was Will and killed him.. Just a thought.

      Mike was referencing SL.

      Which is why it was just a thought. I'm staying with the two PG theory until I get evidence pointing otherwise.

      Did you notice that Mike has the same mouth as the adult Sprite from TCTTC?

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote: Mike could still be Springtrap but his father was the killer. I could be wrong but maybe the ghost kids saw Mike and saw he was "purple" like his father, thought maybe he was Will and killed him.. Just a thought.

      Mike was referencing SL.
      Which is why it was just a thought. I'm staying with the two PG theory until I get evidence pointing otherwise.
      Did you notice that Mike has the same mouth as the adult Sprite from TCTTC?

      Hmm, I guess I didn't.

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    • The Purple Guy in FNAF 4 is the kid imaginating either Michael, William, or another employee (Maybe the technitions works in the Fake Fredbear's thats connected to Sister Location).

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    • KingAlex105X wrote: The Purple Guy in FNAF 4 is the kid imaginating either Michael, William, or another employee (Maybe the technitions works in the Fake Fredbear's thats connected to Sister Location).

      That was Mike's father.

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    • Umm William IS Mike's Father, so your basicly saying that's William in FNAF 4.

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    • KingAlex105X wrote: Umm William IS Mike's Father, so your basicly saying that's William in FNAF 4.

      Yeah but a bit septic of his name, it could Henry since it was never confirmed.

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    • Thlayli22 wrote:
      Mike could still be Springtrap but his father was the killer. I could be wrong but maybe the ghost kids saw Mike and saw he was "purple" like his father, thought maybe he was Will and killed him.. Just a thought.

      I think that is correct, as Michael rected very terrified by the puppet, which would be no surprise as this would be terrifying, but William obviously is very brave as he is confident enough to go into the sister location alone, despite the obvious danger.

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    • RewnBlitz wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:
      Mike could still be Springtrap but his father was the killer. I could be wrong but maybe the ghost kids saw Mike and saw he was "purple" like his father, thought maybe he was Will and killed him.. Just a thought.

      I think that is correct, as Michael rected very terrified by the puppet, which would be no surprise as this would be terrifying, but William obviously is very brave as he is confident enough to go into the sister location alone, despite the obvious danger.

      Didn't Mike went through Worse (and is a ghost himself)?

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      RewnBlitz wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:
      Mike could still be Springtrap but his father was the killer. I could be wrong but maybe the ghost kids saw Mike and saw he was "purple" like his father, thought maybe he was Will and killed him.. Just a thought.
      I think that is correct, as Michael rected very terrified by the puppet, which would be no surprise as this would be terrifying, but William obviously is very brave as he is confident enough to go into the sister location alone, despite the obvious danger.
      Didn't Mike went through Worse (and is a ghost himself)?

      Are we talking about Mike Schmidt?

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    • RewnBlitz wrote:

      Thlayli22 wrote:
      Mike could still be Springtrap but his father was the killer. I could be wrong but maybe the ghost kids saw Mike and saw he was "purple" like his father, thought maybe he was Will and killed him.. Just a thought.

      I think that is correct, as Michael rected very terrified by the puppet, which would be no surprise as this would be terrifying, but William obviously is very brave as he is confident enough to go into the sister location alone, despite the obvious danger.

      Michael is a deteriorated purplish man. He can't be confused by the children, this is not possible. It makes sense that Michael is the killer

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote: Too bad for him/her, 1991 is not the correct date that LLC legislation began but 1977 thus the theory falls apart.

      Didn't they just explained that 1977 has nothing to do with every state in America?

      1991 has even less to do with every state in America and FNAF isn't guaranteed to be set in Texas so the theory still fails by assuming locations.

      Didn't the paychecks also relied on assumed locations? So these theories fall apart as well.

      No, the pay checks relied on simple math and dates with the only point of controversy being that FNAF 1 could of been in either 1993 or 2003.

      Simple math wasn't the only thing you did! Minimum wages rely on specific states.

      And yet Scott clearly wasn't being very specific as the 1-888 in FNAF 2's newspaper is contradictory as it didn't exist back in the 80s and as such proves that Scott really isn't going for historical accuracy. So whether you believe FNAF 1 is 1993 or 2003 the argument is irrelevant so long as it stays in-between FNAF 2 and FNAF 3.

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    • After I saw the cutscene first I thought it was saying Michael wanted to find his father William who is inside Springtrap in Fazbear's Fright

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    • Tina.g.sherwin wrote: After I saw the cutscene first I thought it was saying Michael wanted to find his father William who is inside Springtrap in Fazbear's Fright

      I thought that to until I ran it through my head and realised I'd literally just seen Michael/Eggs turn into a sprite that is very clearly the one who gets springtrapped.
      Frame 19 delay-0.05s

      Thin and Purple with black sclera and white eyes, check

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    • Even sprite is familiar to Purple Guy.

      Same smile, same white pupils, purple shape color.

      It's obvious Purple Guy is Micheal/Eggs.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Tina.g.sherwin wrote: After I saw the cutscene first I thought it was saying Michael wanted to find his father William who is inside Springtrap in Fazbear's Fright

      I thought that to until I ran it through my head and realised I'd literally just seen Michael/Eggs turn into a sprite that is very clearly the one who gets springtrapped.
      Frame 19 delay-0.05s

      Thin and Purple with black sclera and white eyes, check

      The mouth doesn't match.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Tina.g.sherwin wrote: After I saw the cutscene first I thought it was saying Michael wanted to find his father William who is inside Springtrap in Fazbear's Fright

      I thought that to until I ran it through my head and realised I'd literally just seen Michael/Eggs turn into a sprite that is very clearly the one who gets springtrapped.
      Frame 19 delay-0.05s

      Thin and Purple with black sclera and white eyes, check

      Me too. I only thought that for a few days

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    • Tina.g.sherwin wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Tina.g.sherwin wrote: After I saw the cutscene first I thought it was saying Michael wanted to find his father William who is inside Springtrap in Fazbear's Fright

      I thought that to until I ran it through my head and realised I'd literally just seen Michael/Eggs turn into a sprite that is very clearly the one who gets springtrapped.
      Frame 19 delay-0.05s

      Thin and Purple with black sclera and white eyes, check

      Me too. I only thought that for a few days

      Why doesn't the mouth match?

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Tina.g.sherwin wrote:


      Starscream1998 wrote:


      Tina.g.sherwin wrote: After I saw the cutscene first I thought it was saying Michael wanted to find his father William who is inside Springtrap in Fazbear's Fright

      I thought that to until I ran it through my head and realised I'd literally just seen Michael/Eggs turn into a sprite that is very clearly the one who gets springtrapped.
      Frame 19 delay-0.05s

      Thin and Purple with black sclera and white eyes, check

      Me too. I only thought that for a few days
      Why doesn't the mouth match?

      Notice the first purple guy is almost the same as William's color, while the springtraped purple guy is a different shade and has no badge, suggesting it would be someone else

      Purple_man.png

      Purple_Guy_Walk_West_Gif.gif

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    • But what about the blood?! How could ennard have bled?! Scott seems to be saying that whoever's Springtrap is ennard, but that can't be because they couldn't bleed!

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    • Crystalwaterfall wrote: But what about the blood?! How could ennard have bled?! Scott seems to be saying that whoever's Springtrap is ennard, but that can't be because they couldn't bleed!

      I know. Even the soap opera suggestes that Sister location takes place after fnaf3 (with the fire thing).

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    • RewnBlitz wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Tina.g.sherwin wrote:


      Starscream1998 wrote:


      Tina.g.sherwin wrote: After I saw the cutscene first I thought it was saying Michael wanted to find his father William who is inside Springtrap in Fazbear's Fright

      I thought that to until I ran it through my head and realised I'd literally just seen Michael/Eggs turn into a sprite that is very clearly the one who gets springtrapped.
      Frame 19 delay-0.05s

      Thin and Purple with black sclera and white eyes, check

      Me too. I only thought that for a few days
      Why doesn't the mouth match?

      Notice the first purple guy is almost the same as William's color, while the springtraped purple guy is a different shade and has no badge, suggesting it would be someone else

      Purple_man.png

      Purple_Guy_Walk_West_Gif.gif

      Those sprites match, purple guy has a removable badge.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      RewnBlitz wrote:


      Timetoscare wrote:

      Tina.g.sherwin wrote:



      Starscream1998 wrote:



      Tina.g.sherwin wrote: After I saw the cutscene first I thought it was saying Michael wanted to find his father William who is inside Springtrap in Fazbear's Fright

      I thought that to until I ran it through my head and realised I'd literally just seen Michael/Eggs turn into a sprite that is very clearly the one who gets springtrapped.
      Frame 19 delay-0.05s

      Thin and Purple with black sclera and white eyes, check

      Me too. I only thought that for a few days
      Why doesn't the mouth match?
      Notice the first purple guy is almost the same as William's color, while the springtraped purple guy is a different shade and has no badge, suggesting it would be someone else

      Purple_man.png

      Purple_Guy_Walk_West_Gif.gif

      Those sprites match, purple guy has a removable badge.

      You have a point, but the first purple guy is notably bigger then the second and differs slightly in shape, but his may be blamed by Scott Cawthin's need to keep changing how things are detailed throughout the games.

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    • RewnBlitz wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      RewnBlitz wrote:


      Timetoscare wrote:

      Tina.g.sherwin wrote:



      Starscream1998 wrote:



      Tina.g.sherwin wrote: After I saw the cutscene first I thought it was saying Michael wanted to find his father William who is inside Springtrap in Fazbear's Fright

      I thought that to until I ran it through my head and realised I'd literally just seen Michael/Eggs turn into a sprite that is very clearly the one who gets springtrapped.
      Frame 19 delay-0.05s

      Thin and Purple with black sclera and white eyes, check

      Me too. I only thought that for a few days
      Why doesn't the mouth match?
      Notice the first purple guy is almost the same as William's color, while the springtraped purple guy is a different shade and has no badge, suggesting it would be someone else

      Purple_man.png

      Purple_Guy_Walk_West_Gif.gif

      Those sprites match, purple guy has a removable badge.

      You have a point, but the first purple guy is notably bigger then the second and differs slightly in shape, but his may be blamed by Scott Cawthin's need to keep changing how things are detailed throughout the games.

      It's easier to recognize humans by looking at their faces. That's how I recognized Michael as Pink guy in his first appearance.

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    • Here's how I THINK things played out: It's probably wrong given how Scott loves to surprise us but based on the book, the games and the mini games here is the abridged biography of William Afton: The Purple Guy!

      In the later part of the space decade of the 1970's there were two inventors; Henry {no last name given} and his partner William Afton. Both were fathers with young children, Henry having two and William having three, and both had sons named Michael. Together they built the most advanced animatronic performers the world had ever seen. Ones that could not only sing but dance, walk around and serve food as we see in "Take cake to the children". Together in Hurricane Oregon they created their first restaurant: Fredbear's family diner. Henry took over the public relations side while William was in charge of the financial side of the business. In the early 80's, William's eldest son Michael had taken a liking to terrifying his little brother using masks of the various animatronic characters, in particular Foxy. To try to be there even when he wasn't William set up security cameras in the form of Fredbear plushies. Sometimes William would help the performers put on the Spring Lock suits under the guise of David Miller the security guard in order to not draw attention to himself.

      At his youngest son's birthday party, Michael and his friends thought it would be funny to shove the poor frightened child's face onto Fredbear's, not realizing just how powerful the bears jaws were. The little brother got caught in Fredbear's mouth and the animatronic crushed his skull in, ultimately causing his death sometime later. A heat broken William then lashed out in a murderous rage against the world, killing 6 children spread his own pain and suffering to others, including Henry's son, the other Michael. But one night he saw something incredible, something that would shape the series of events that would define the Fazbear legacy: He saw the Puppet giving life to the other 5 children in the form of placing their spirits in the animatronics.

      Sometime later in 1987 he repeated his crime, this time with the express purpose of seeing if the Puppet could do it again, taunting the animatronics that the couldn't save the children. To his joy he Puppet gave life to the new 5 children. At that point William, having gained full control of the company via the suicide of Henry put his plans into motion. After the "New" Freddy's shut down he created he Funtime animatronics, with the express purpose of kidnapping children for him to experiment on. Experiments in how to Give Gifts, Give Life. Specifically to his youngest son, whom he swore he would fix. Eventually it worked, but at the cost of the life of his daughter, whom he told multiple times to NOT go near Baby. Sometime later, he'd tell his son Michael, now an adult where they were being held. Michael went to them and in order to help his sister and her friends paid the ultimate price. But somehow how didn't truly die. His spirit somehow remained inside his scooped out body with those of Enard. But his body decomposed and Enard was forced to evacuate the hollowed out body. But Baby left Michael, her brother with one final gift: The gift of life.

      William went into hiding as his son Michael took on his name and his alas of David Miller. Michael want to draw out his father to make him pay for his crimes. under his father's name he experimented on how to best wear the spring lock suits. This is what caused the horrible scars on his body in Silver Eyes as well as his appearance in the book. But again, already being dead Michael endured.

      At this point ne of two things occurred:

      One possibility is Michael wanted to free the spirits inside the Fazbear animatronics and did so by destroying their animatronics. Thinking Michael was his father 5 of the ghosts confronted him in the secret safe room. For some reason he panicked and put on a dilapidated Spring Bonnie suit which had been in disrepair and exposed to rain water. The suit malfunctioned and Michael was unable to pull the suit off.

      While this explains some things like how the person in the suit is able to still be "alive" it doesn't explain why Michael would panic at seeing the ghosts or why he'd laugh at them. It also fails to explain the mummified skull inside Spring Trap

      The second is William, after the events of Silver Eyes, fearing prosecution returned to Freddy's to gather up and destroy the evidence including his research into giving life to the dead spirits and the haunted animatronics. As with the previous scenario; 5 of the ghosts confronted him in the secret safe room. He panicked and put on a dilapidated Spring Bonnie suit which malfunctioned and it killed him, causing him to become Spring Trap. Michael is still out there as a heavily scared boneless zombie trying to draw out his father who is now a zombie cyborg bunny man and make him pay for his crimes{....or catch up over some casual bongos and a basket of exotic butters.}

      I like this theory since it explains why Purple Guy panicked after seeing the ghosts of the murdered children, why Spring Trap has a mummified skull under his mask and all the blood that came out of his body when the Spring Locks failed. But one problem is who gave him life? Did he somehow do it himself or was it the Puppet who wanted him to know just how much suffering he put them and so many other children through. However both scenarios perfectly set up the FNAF movie as a final showdown between William Afton and the murdered children

      Either way we will get more answers and have more questions in FNAF 6. And theroists like you, me, MatPat and everyone else will be pulling our hair out trying to digest the new infrmation

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    • You've got wrong timeline at beginning. 

      FNAF 4 is a sequel to FNAF: SL. Micheal is Purple Guy and already exists in FNAF 4 on night 3 minigame. Also TSE is non-canon.

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    • At first I was opposed to the idea of the main thread but the Purple Guy seen in the original story is undoubtedly human with the blood and guts we see in Springtrap which means he can NOT be Michael. Plus it's just common sense as Scott said all we needed to solve the original story was the first 4 games so there you have it.

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    • DFTP wrote: You've got wrong timeline at beginning. 

      FNAF 4 is a sequel to FNAF: SL. Micheal is Purple Guy and already exists in FNAF 4 on night 3 minigame. Also TSE is non-canon.

      That may be false.There are two purple guys:William and Michael.The purple guy we see is William, who is working.Just because Michael looks purple doesn't mean he's every purple guy

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    • Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      DFTP wrote: You've got wrong timeline at beginning. 

      FNAF 4 is a sequel to FNAF: SL. Micheal is Purple Guy and already exists in FNAF 4 on night 3 minigame. Also TSE is non-canon.

      That may be false.There are two purple guys:William and Michael.The purple guy we see is William, who is working.Just because Michael looks purple doesn't mean he's every purple guy

      I have to agree there. The Purple Guy that we follow and see perish in the original story 1-4 is clearly not a victim of scooping as he bleeds when crushed in the suit and displays far too much organic material as Springtrap. Scott even said the original story could be solved with just the 4 games which means Michael was always out of the running as the killer...unless you try and make the case SL takes place before any of the previous games which is just objectively untrue as HandUnit brings up the closure of FFP.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote: At first I was opposed to the idea of the main thread but the Purple Guy seen in the original story is undoubtedly human with the blood and guts we see in Springtrap which means he can NOT be Michael. Plus it's just common sense as Scott said all we needed to solve the original story was the first 4 games so there you have it.

      Would it mean that the previous rules still apply?

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    • Party Escort Bot = Beans wrote:
      After a bit of thinking I realized something.

      Springtrap can't be Michael, here's why.

      We hear Springtrap moan in FNaF3.

      So why would he suddenly be able to speak clearly in SL?

      He was trying to talk, but his voice box was damaged. After a few moans, his voice box cleared up, and he was able to actually speak.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      DFTP wrote: You've got wrong timeline at beginning. 

      FNAF 4 is a sequel to FNAF: SL. Micheal is Purple Guy and already exists in FNAF 4 on night 3 minigame. Also TSE is non-canon.

      That may be false.There are two purple guys:William and Michael.The purple guy we see is William, who is working.Just because Michael looks purple doesn't mean he's every purple guy

      I have to agree there. The Purple Guy that we follow and see perish in the original story 1-4 is clearly not a victim of scooping as he bleeds when crushed in the suit and displays far too much organic material as Springtrap. Scott even said the original story could be solved with just the 4 games which means Michael was always out of the running as the killer...unless you try and make the case SL takes place before any of the previous games which is just objectively untrue as HandUnit brings up the closure of FFP.

      So Michael killed them all. It's not suprising at this point, I've pointed out the connections that Michael = the killer in the fnaf1-fnaf4 games.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      DFTP wrote: You've got wrong timeline at beginning. 

      FNAF 4 is a sequel to FNAF: SL. Micheal is Purple Guy and already exists in FNAF 4 on night 3 minigame. Also TSE is non-canon.

      That may be false.There are two purple guys:William and Michael.The purple guy we see is William, who is working.Just because Michael looks purple doesn't mean he's every purple guy

      I have to agree there. The Purple Guy that we follow and see perish in the original story 1-4 is clearly not a victim of scooping as he bleeds when crushed in the suit and displays far too much organic material as Springtrap. Scott even said the original story could be solved with just the 4 games which means Michael was always out of the running as the killer...unless you try and make the case SL takes place before any of the previous games which is just objectively untrue as HandUnit brings up the closure of FFP.
      So Michael killed them all. It's not suprising at this point, I've pointed out the connections that Michael = the killer in the fnaf1-fnaf4 games.

      Michael is the killer that we know. This is obvious.

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    • Xamp6 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:

      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      DFTP wrote: You've got wrong timeline at beginning. 

      FNAF 4 is a sequel to FNAF: SL. Micheal is Purple Guy and already exists in FNAF 4 on night 3 minigame. Also TSE is non-canon.

      That may be false.There are two purple guys:William and Michael.The purple guy we see is William, who is working.Just because Michael looks purple doesn't mean he's every purple guy

      I have to agree there. The Purple Guy that we follow and see perish in the original story 1-4 is clearly not a victim of scooping as he bleeds when crushed in the suit and displays far too much organic material as Springtrap. Scott even said the original story could be solved with just the 4 games which means Michael was always out of the running as the killer...unless you try and make the case SL takes place before any of the previous games which is just objectively untrue as HandUnit brings up the closure of FFP.
      So Michael killed them all. It's not suprising at this point, I've pointed out the connections that Michael = the killer in the fnaf1-fnaf4 games.

      Michael is the killer that we know. This is obvious.

      Unless you have to deal with the 5 stages of grief to accept it.

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    • Xamp6 wrote:
      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:


      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:


      DFTP wrote: You've got wrong timeline at beginning. 

      FNAF 4 is a sequel to FNAF: SL. Micheal is Purple Guy and already exists in FNAF 4 on night 3 minigame. Also TSE is non-canon.

      That may be false.There are two purple guys:William and Michael.The purple guy we see is William, who is working.Just because Michael looks purple doesn't mean he's every purple guy
      I have to agree there. The Purple Guy that we follow and see perish in the original story 1-4 is clearly not a victim of scooping as he bleeds when crushed in the suit and displays far too much organic material as Springtrap. Scott even said the original story could be solved with just the 4 games which means Michael was always out of the running as the killer...unless you try and make the case SL takes place before any of the previous games which is just objectively untrue as HandUnit brings up the closure of FFP.
      So Michael killed them all. It's not suprising at this point, I've pointed out the connections that Michael = the killer in the fnaf1-fnaf4 games.
      Michael is the killer that we know. This is obvious.

      It isn't.Assumptions

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    • Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      Xamp6 wrote:
      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:


      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:


      DFTP wrote: You've got wrong timeline at beginning. 

      FNAF 4 is a sequel to FNAF: SL. Micheal is Purple Guy and already exists in FNAF 4 on night 3 minigame. Also TSE is non-canon.

      That may be false.There are two purple guys:William and Michael.The purple guy we see is William, who is working.Just because Michael looks purple doesn't mean he's every purple guy
      I have to agree there. The Purple Guy that we follow and see perish in the original story 1-4 is clearly not a victim of scooping as he bleeds when crushed in the suit and displays far too much organic material as Springtrap. Scott even said the original story could be solved with just the 4 games which means Michael was always out of the running as the killer...unless you try and make the case SL takes place before any of the previous games which is just objectively untrue as HandUnit brings up the closure of FFP.
      So Michael killed them all. It's not suprising at this point, I've pointed out the connections that Michael = the killer in the fnaf1-fnaf4 games.
      Michael is the killer that we know. This is obvious.

      It isn't.Assumptions

      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/17/66/42/17664285c6e2510e491cc13bc518edbc.jpg

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      Xamp6 wrote:
      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:


      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:


      DFTP wrote: You've got wrong timeline at beginning. 

      FNAF 4 is a sequel to FNAF: SL. Micheal is Purple Guy and already exists in FNAF 4 on night 3 minigame. Also TSE is non-canon.

      That may be false.There are two purple guys:William and Michael.The purple guy we see is William, who is working.Just because Michael looks purple doesn't mean he's every purple guy
      I have to agree there. The Purple Guy that we follow and see perish in the original story 1-4 is clearly not a victim of scooping as he bleeds when crushed in the suit and displays far too much organic material as Springtrap. Scott even said the original story could be solved with just the 4 games which means Michael was always out of the running as the killer...unless you try and make the case SL takes place before any of the previous games which is just objectively untrue as HandUnit brings up the closure of FFP.
      So Michael killed them all. It's not suprising at this point, I've pointed out the connections that Michael = the killer in the fnaf1-fnaf4 games.
      Michael is the killer that we know. This is obvious.
      It isn't.Assumptions
      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/17/66/42/17664285c6e2510e491cc13bc518edbc.jpg

      As this is from fnaf 2, it is more likely scott used mike (short for mike schmidt), as a placeholder. Since Michael Afton didn't exist before the SL.

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    • RewnBlitz wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      Xamp6 wrote:
      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:


      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:


      DFTP wrote: You've got wrong timeline at beginning. 

      FNAF 4 is a sequel to FNAF: SL. Micheal is Purple Guy and already exists in FNAF 4 on night 3 minigame. Also TSE is non-canon.

      That may be false.There are two purple guys:William and Michael.The purple guy we see is William, who is working.Just because Michael looks purple doesn't mean he's every purple guy
      I have to agree there. The Purple Guy that we follow and see perish in the original story 1-4 is clearly not a victim of scooping as he bleeds when crushed in the suit and displays far too much organic material as Springtrap. Scott even said the original story could be solved with just the 4 games which means Michael was always out of the running as the killer...unless you try and make the case SL takes place before any of the previous games which is just objectively untrue as HandUnit brings up the closure of FFP.
      So Michael killed them all. It's not suprising at this point, I've pointed out the connections that Michael = the killer in the fnaf1-fnaf4 games.
      Michael is the killer that we know. This is obvious.
      It isn't.Assumptions
      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/17/66/42/17664285c6e2510e491cc13bc518edbc.jpg

      As this is from fnaf 2, it is more likely scott used mike (short for mike schmidt), as a placeholder. Since Michael Afton didn't exist before the SL.

      Michael hides his identity throughout the games.

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      RewnBlitz wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      Xamp6 wrote:
      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:


      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:


      DFTP wrote: You've got wrong timeline at beginning. 

      FNAF 4 is a sequel to FNAF: SL. Micheal is Purple Guy and already exists in FNAF 4 on night 3 minigame. Also TSE is non-canon.

      That may be false.There are two purple guys:William and Michael.The purple guy we see is William, who is working.Just because Michael looks purple doesn't mean he's every purple guy
      I have to agree there. The Purple Guy that we follow and see perish in the original story 1-4 is clearly not a victim of scooping as he bleeds when crushed in the suit and displays far too much organic material as Springtrap. Scott even said the original story could be solved with just the 4 games which means Michael was always out of the running as the killer...unless you try and make the case SL takes place before any of the previous games which is just objectively untrue as HandUnit brings up the closure of FFP.
      So Michael killed them all. It's not suprising at this point, I've pointed out the connections that Michael = the killer in the fnaf1-fnaf4 games.
      Michael is the killer that we know. This is obvious.
      It isn't.Assumptions
      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/17/66/42/17664285c6e2510e491cc13bc518edbc.jpg

      As this is from fnaf 2, it is more likely scott used mike (short for mike schmidt), as a placeholder. Since Michael Afton didn't exist before the SL.

      Michael hides his identity throughout the games.

      This has little evidence to support itself other than Fnaf 1

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    • Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      RewnBlitz wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      Xamp6 wrote:
      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:


      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:


      DFTP wrote: You've got wrong timeline at beginning. 

      FNAF 4 is a sequel to FNAF: SL. Micheal is Purple Guy and already exists in FNAF 4 on night 3 minigame. Also TSE is non-canon.

      That may be false.There are two purple guys:William and Michael.The purple guy we see is William, who is working.Just because Michael looks purple doesn't mean he's every purple guy
      I have to agree there. The Purple Guy that we follow and see perish in the original story 1-4 is clearly not a victim of scooping as he bleeds when crushed in the suit and displays far too much organic material as Springtrap. Scott even said the original story could be solved with just the 4 games which means Michael was always out of the running as the killer...unless you try and make the case SL takes place before any of the previous games which is just objectively untrue as HandUnit brings up the closure of FFP.
      So Michael killed them all. It's not suprising at this point, I've pointed out the connections that Michael = the killer in the fnaf1-fnaf4 games.
      Michael is the killer that we know. This is obvious.
      It isn't.Assumptions
      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/17/66/42/17664285c6e2510e491cc13bc518edbc.jpg

      As this is from fnaf 2, it is more likely scott used mike (short for mike schmidt), as a placeholder. Since Michael Afton didn't exist before the SL.

      Michael hides his identity throughout the games.

      This has little evidence to support itself other than Fnaf 1

      https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JbXhT5h1aBE/hqdefault.jpg Name me a blue eyed character that existed before fnaf2 but during Fredbears?

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    • Timetoscare wrote:

      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      RewnBlitz wrote:

      Timetoscare wrote:

      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:

      Xamp6 wrote:
      Timetoscare wrote:

      Starscream1998 wrote:


      Timeforadventure2178 wrote:


      DFTP wrote: You've got wrong timeline at beginning. 

      FNAF 4 is a sequel to FNAF: SL. Micheal is Purple Guy and already exists in FNAF 4 on night 3 minigame. Also TSE is non-canon.

      That may be false.There are two purple guys:William and Michael.The purple guy we see is William, who is working.Just because Michael looks purple doesn't mean he's every purple guy
      I have to agree there. The Purple Guy that we follow and see perish in the original story 1-4 is clearly not a victim of scooping as he bleeds when crushed in the suit and displays far too much organic material as Springtrap. Scott even said the original story could be solved with just the 4 games which means Michael was always out of the running as the killer...unless you try and make the case SL takes place before any of the previous games which is just objectively untrue as HandUnit brings up the closure of FFP.
      So Michael killed them all. It's not suprising at this point, I've pointed out the connections that Michael = the killer in the fnaf1-fnaf4 games.
      Michael is the killer that we know. This is obvious.
      It isn't.Assumptions
      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/17/66/42/17664285c6e2510e491cc13bc518edbc.jpg

      As this is from fnaf 2, it is more likely scott used mike (short for mike schmidt), as a placeholder. Since Michael Afton didn't exist before the SL.

      Michael hides his identity throughout the games.

      This has little evidence to support itself other than Fnaf 1

      https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JbXhT5h1aBE/hqdefault.jpg Name me a blue eyed character that existed before fnaf2 but during Fredbears?

      What are you trying to prove? That's likely BB

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