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Starscream1998

aka The Faithful Somniator

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  • I live in The place where fact and fiction are one and the same.
  • My occupation is Student of the art of Storycraft i.e. I love to write.
  • I am Male but I have been told I'm quite feminine in terms of personality
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  • were the animatronics powered by charlies soul? or was the charlie we know and the real charlie different within the books?

    Also this is officially the saddest book i have read that isn't trying to be sad i think...

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    • Oh yeah i forgot about sammy being alive

      this actually leaves breathing space for the real charlie as marrionette and our charlie to face off in an epic crossover! that would be cool if she wasn't dead

      Thanks for the feedback!

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    • You're welcome

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  • I need your permission to use you in a story I am going to write. I have a handful of other people I am going try to get the permission of, but I just wanted if I could get yours!

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  • Before, I came up with a backstory for William Afton revolving around his abusive parents. But the more I thought about it, the more I felt like it was a cop-out story and also repetitive, since William’s abuse towards Lucas is what made the latter go insane; Lucas was always bitter towards Michael after the Bite, but would’ve never been truly a malicious or dangerous person if their father didn’t push him over the edge. In other words, William essentially broke Lucas and stripped him of his humanity.

    However, William has a very odd perception of love that is twisted by his own psychosis. As a child and teenager, William made little to no attempt to conceal his psychopathy, which naturally caused his peers to stay away from him. Beverly Schmidt was the only one who made any attempt to get to know him, and was willing to treat him as an actual person. This is what resulted in William’s romantic relationship with her, but even after marriage, William saw Beverly as less of an actual person, and rather an object that makes him feel good. A toy to play with and discard when he was bored. This sort of mindset extended to their children, which is why he hates Michael and loves Elizabeth. Michael never abided by his father’s rules and expectations, while Elizabeth always followed them. William was always controlling towards Beverly, and when he started controlling their kids, Beverly drew the line and threatened to walk out and take their children with her. Obviously, that didn’t pan out. In a way, you could say that William is very much a yandere for Beverly (he even stalked her whenever they weren’t together), to the point where he killed her and placed her soul inside Grace so that she would never leave him. His version of love is a totalitarian grip on everyone he cares about, and keeping them in line, threatening them if they even ask for some independence.

    “You know you’ll never leave me, right? We will do great things together, my dear.” -William to Beverly.

    It’s also why William employed reverse psychology in his daughter, but instead of purely trying to have her possess Baby, DoTM follows the interpretation that this was William’s way of testing Elizabeth’s loyalty to him as his selected heir; to see whether she was obedient enough to remain human, or if she needed to be forcibly corrupted by Baby’s AI to keep her in line, and Elizabeth failed that test. And when Lucas was revived after the Bite, William tortured him whenever his youngest son didn’t meet his expectations, and forced him to assist in his immortality experiments. Whatever independence Lucas had a person, William took it away from him, as well as his chance to be a normal kid. William twisted Lucas into what he wanted him to be rather than let him be his own person, depriving him of his own free will. By the time of DoTM, Lucas has entered a state where he has nothing to live for other than complete his father’s goals, with what little humanity he has left being devoted towards his intense hatred towards Michael.

    “My brother and sister are two very different individuals, at least with how they treated Father and how he treated them. Michael couldn’t stand Father’s rules, while Ellie followed them without question. Michael made it hard for Father to control him, while Ellie made it very easy. Michael was defiant, and Ellie was obedient. Father always punished Michael for his rebelliousness, and the one time Ellie disobeyed, she paid for it with her life. Yet, despite this, they had one thing in common, even if it was conveyed differently. They both refused to accept that they were manipulated by Father. Michael refused to let Father control him and wanted to be his own independent person… while Ellie loves Father so much that she desperately wants to believe that Father loves her back, following him in the hopes that she can be loved as his daughter, and more than just a tool. But at the end of the day, all three of us are merely expendable pawns on the chess board. That’s all I’ve ever been, and all I’m capable of. It’s only a matter of time until Michael is put in his place like us.” -Lucas Afton, regarding Michael and Elizabeth Afton.

    TL;DR: William’s psycho logic: love = do whatever I tell you to do without question or suffer.

    That was my attempt of giving William in-depth characterization without making him a tragic character.

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    • I'd still say William is tragic here but in a good way, it shows that he doesn't truly grasp what love is but desperately wants to try and understand it and in that regard it sets up huge potential for a character arc in this iteration of William.

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    • I considered doing something similar to Detroit: Become Human in terms of chapters: similar to how that game alternates between Connor, Kara, and Markus’ storylines, I thought about trying to have the chapters switch between Violet’s (I’m very indecisive about the protagonist’s name, as you can probably tell) perspective within Lucas’ tests, and Lucas’ perspective as a teenager enduring William’s abuse. Would that be a good idea, or would it be better to have the story solely revolve around Violet’s struggle against Lucas and Elizabeth?

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    • Perspective change definitely.

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  • I've joined this place after you, yet I died before you ;-;

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  • I have a new discussion, you can go and check out my blog.

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  • I will be going with my family to the Lake District and will be absent for a week.

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  • Well I've been working on debunking all of Ferret's FNAF Theory Shorts and FNAf Theoretical Shorts. I've so gone through and debunked Soul Eating in FNAF, How Springsuits Really Work, FNAF 2 in 1992 (not really a debunk but more of a complaint post), and Shadow Freddy in FNAF 1. I'm currenty working on debunking the Summer Paradox, but I decided to take time off from it to debunk all of Ferret's FNAf theoretical shorts, so I'm currently debunking Purple Guy is a robot.

    Also I plan on making a post, probably tomorrow, about how William Afton is definitely a sociopath.

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    • Cool, I look forward to it just remember to keep the debunking informative and objective and keep personal bias or appeal to emotion fallacies out of it. Outside of that you've got the green light and thumbs up from me.

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    • Starscream1998 wrote:
      Cool, I look forward to it just remember to keep the debunking informative and objective and keep personal bias or appeal to emotion fallacies out of it. Outside of that you've got the green light and thumbs up from me.

      I've done my best for that. I stick to evidence and don't dive into insults and personal bias. I'll probably post them on the Wiki once I refine them.

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    • Neato

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  • So, while this story mainly focuses on William and Beverly’s younger son, Lucas Afton, as an adult in the aftermath of his Bite incident, I was thinking about your opinion of William’s character in the games, which is sorely lacking in development. Keeping this in mind, I wondered if I could somehow avert this with my story’s version of William. His role would have eventually been at a minimum, only serving as the one responsible for the majority of his son’s insanity, but I feel tempted to elaborate on William’s backstory a bit more. And in a different way than the Midnight Motorist theory, though parental abuse is still part of it. Here goes:

    William Afton was born as the son of James and Evelyn Afton. However, William’s conception wasn’t a loving one. Evelyn, 16 at the time, eventually formed a relationship with James, who was 7 years older than her. Evelyn’s parents didn’t approve of the relationship, though this didn’t stop them from eloping. However, whenever James was angry, he became physically and verbally abusive towards his wife. One night, James came in, and after throwing a fit, he raped Evelyn, conceiving William. The reason Evelyn stayed with him after this was because she didn’t have the proper education and James was the only to make ends meet, especially since she was going to be a mother, and she certainly couldn’t go back to her parents.

    James’ physical abuse of Evelyn shifted to his son, though he still yelled at his wife for anything she did wrong. Evelyn had a love-hate relationship with her son; as much as she cared enough to raise him initially, she also began to see him as the reason for all of her misery, since having enough money to raise him was the reason she stayed with a man that abused her, seeing William as a chain that binded her to James. It didn’t help that William already expressed symptoms of psychopathy (which actually is due to James raping Evelyn), which is a reason why both of his parents are abusive to him. His mental disorder made James ashamed of his son, and saw him as a “freak”, leading to a lot of merciless beatdowns at his father’s hands. Evelyn was also a religious zealot, and stuck to her Christian beliefs, viewing her son’s existence as a sin, due to his conception being the result of her being raped (forgive me if Evelyn’s depiction of zealotry is inaccurate, I’m not a religious person). William’s psychosis only fueled Evelyn’s resentment towards her son even more, to the point of both physical and psychological abuse. Essentially, William became a punching dummy for both of his parents whenever they felt angry. Evelyn, in particular, also had a tendency to punish William by crucifying him. To paint a picture of William’s childhood while under his mother’s care, think of Margaret White from Carrie. Eventually, William decided to return the favor and murdered both James and Evelyn on his 12th birthday for revenge.

    After James and Evelyn’s deaths, William was transferred to an orphanage. Due to his mental disorders, he was often bullied by the other orphans, much like his father, and due to his status as a child by rape, the nuns at the orphanage also hated William, much like his mother.

    There were only two other individuals that saw William as a person, and not just a psychopath: their names were Henry Emily and Beverly Schmidt. I’m sure you know what happened afterwards: William marries Beverly and starts a family with her, while also opening Fredbear’s Family Diner with Henry as his business partner. However, since Beverly’s acceptance of William’s mental disorder was what made him infatuated with her in the first place, William tried to suppress his psychotic tendencies and remain “normal”, as long as his wife was happy. In a way, Beverly acted as a nullifier for William’s insanity. After Beverly died of cancer, William was unable to let go of her, and then he remembered something: after he murdered his parents and became an orphan, there were several instances where the shadowy figures of his parents would appear outside the window of the bedroom. Through this, William came to the conclusion that immortality was possible. This leads to him developing remnant and killing Charlie, and you already know the rest of everything that happened after that. As for Beverly, she eventually possessed Grace when William created the animatronic for her, though since William didn’t have it in him anymore to resist his psychological issues, this caused him to program Grace in a way that corrupted his wife, much like his daughter when she possessed Baby.

    Why am I telling you all this? Well... because I have no idea how I would be able to convey all of this to the reader in DoTM’s present story. So, I figured I would tell you and see what you thought, since I might not be able to incorporate all of this into DoTM. Opinions?

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    • Admittedly, it would be a good use for Scrap Baby’s claw.

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    • Well when it's your final game I guess you sorta just go "what the hell, lets go crazy with the designs."

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  • The thing is I got so in depth I had to subtitle it "A Crash Course in Everything Springlock"

    Anyway, I was hoping to post it to the discussion board and was wondering if you thought that was a good idea, or if it would be better to put it on the dying forum, or post it in both places?

    Also maybe you could read over it so that you could confirm it isn't the same schlock that I've seen on the Discussion board lately (I mean did you see that Afton Wife one? Jeez it was awful).

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  • I restarted my computer so I lost my data here. Sorry.

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