it was scott saying that your rumors were correct and saying there could be only 1 black kid in any form of media on a steam post, the photo and the post was removed. Billy or "Demon" Removed the image. and scott probably was hacked.
Well, it confirms that Rose started with a standard power level for a Quartz Soldier.
Rose being at the very center of that spiral at the beginning makes me think there was something special about her creation though.
Rose is shown dancing with primative humans. Pearl confirmed in "It's Over Isn't It" that Rose had been with MANY men before Greg. It seems gems enjoyed mingling with humans.
Pink is pictured as being HUGE early in Rose's story. And Pink's actual gem is never pictured. It seems like Rose was created after Pink's gem was altered to a standard diamond gem.
There's a lot written in the Gem Language. Decoding that is going to be a requirement before long.
Confirmation that Rose's Sword was the one used to stab Pink.
Pink is pictured as RED when she gets shattered.
Everything about Garnet's flashback is stylized.. except the ending where Rose's shield deflects an attack by three diamonds in The Corruption Song (how does it do that? Well.. it must have been diamond strong.) So when Garnet is retelling events in a legendary fashion that isn't exact, it's stylized. But when it looks real at the end that should be take literally.
Many details are certainly wrong. Rose's Sword shattering Pink. Rose approaching Pink in the middle of a battle, when it actually happened in the middle of a peaceful court.
Ah, good to know we're on the same page. I was just like "um no Garnet, Rose's sword doesn't shatter gems AWAY WITH YOUR LIES!" I'm joking I love Garnet but while we've certainly learnt a lot more (and a lot of your points as you've said have been confirmed) it's very clear this is an embellishment and not actually accurate as a retelling of past events especially considering Garnet wasn't even around during most of these events.
Trust me you're not the only one who thinks that, it's actually the general consensus of many SU fans that this version has some glaring inaccuracies that don't line up with things we know. By the way, on the subject of FNAF are FNAF SL and 6 part of the games, part of the books, their own universe or is it all neatly FNAF 1-6? I only ask because I'd like an overall picture of any separate universes and their separate stories because admittedly you've kind of lost me post Summer Paradox video and FNAF 6 really wasn't gelling with what I understood about your theories e.g. wasn't 1-4 the whole 'revenge solves nothing' but then SL was meant to be it's own universe and then 6 is really quite the slap in the face in regards to a lot of the Ferret Theory. On a more uplifting note I'm thinking of doing a Mad Science style theory down the line in your honour. Of course it will greatly differ, wouldn't want to plagiarise and...well I'm not quite brave enough to put the words Lamar and Afton together in a sentence along with other things I respectfully don't agree with.
I mean I totally don't want to come off as that guy who just tells you you're wrong (because at the end of the day your Mad Science themed theories were way ahead of their time as SL and 6 justifiably proved beyond a doubt) but it just seems...I don't know man, the fact it's called FNAF 6 kind of explains it's all a continuous narrative and there exists only one other universe and that's the one the novels take place in (okay 3 universes if you seriously want to count FNAF World) and Henry is absolutely definitely super not Phone Guy or Pink Guy (I know you defended that from the TFF but it's kind of hard to shake as we don't really need 3 Purple Guys 1 of which is the only one who is actually purple) and William is definitely the big bad mad scientist you were looking for.
Then again with all the time and effort you've put in to the AFH it would be a SUPER dick move of me to suggest any sort of reboot right now and personally I want to see that video if only because it'll be a learning experience for both parties and once it's released it'll take a load off your back and allow you to reassess the overall state of your master theory. You should definitely keep all that good stuff about the spring suits, the mad science you know the real core essence of your theory but things like Pink Guy and multiverses out of the whazoo kind of feel outdated. I don't know really, I'm just rambling a bit now so I'll stop before this gets any longer but I feel like you deserve honest feedback on your effort (and not that immature crap they sling at you on Freddit).
In your honour Ferret, because while I can no longer in good conscience agree with what The Ferret Theory ultimately evolved into I steadfastly believe the foundations you laid were way ahead of their time and your contributions to how we can understand the lore of this series are nothing to scoff at.
Sorry I'm late to reply. Things are a bit crazy here.
My current belief is that FNAF 5 and 6 follow the game universe, with one exception: The positions of Henry and William have been switched.
I believe in FNAF 1-4 William was the grandfather, and Henry was his eldest son/Phone Guy. William designed the animatronics as horcruxes to extend the lives of his family, while Henry and the evil half of his daughter than became Shadow Freddy perverted the springsuit technology into soul-stealing killing machines.
This is The Retcon Scott was talking about. In FNAF 5-6 Henry is the good guy, and William seems to be the bad guy. It's not entirely that simple.. but it's the only change the seems to make sense to me.
If we're supposed to take The Freddy Files literally and seriously.. it did say that The Aforementioned Purple Guy was the Pink Guy sprite.
But there's no possiblity that FNAF 2 Purple Guy and FNAF 2 Pink Guy are exactly the same. They're mirror opposites of each other in every way.
For them both to be the same person.. they have to be different PARTS of the same person.
So I'm going with the Henry Jekyl idea where "old friend" William was actually his opposite half.
We have confirmation that two Purple Sprites exist: William in FNAF 2 and 3, and Michael of The Order of the Blue Pants in Sister Location. We say William get stuffed, and Michael wasn't Springtrap. So both William and Michael's sprites are real.
And The Pink Guy plays a super important role in FNAF 2. This is definitely a third entity/soul shard from the other two.
For some reason, William tore himself in half. I'm still wondering why, but nothing else fits the evidence.
Why would Henry not refer to William as grandfather then in FNAF 6 instead going for 'old friend' which strongly implies no family connection at all. I've got my own idea of what the Shadow Animatronics are and while I can definitely agree that William invented the technology capable of infusing souls into metal which you and I can agree on is the core foundation of the entire series that's about it.
Scott said the retcon was something that worked seamlessly to the point nobody found it and he also made that post before FNAF 6 was even finished in development which all but confirms the retcon existed prior to that game. Henry has always been the good guy though he possibly has darker secrets waiting to be revealed in the novel universe at least. I do see however looking through the lens of your theories how it would be the logical next step for you but alas therein lies the rub.
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Also keep in mind Scott Cawthon himself is credited as author of TFF so besides the occasional typo (or maybe not in your case as you did say that FF was FFP) all of TFF is canon.
Isn't there, sprite designs seem to change even within the same game. It could easily be a parallel of William's weight loss in the games e.g. pink and fat at the start, purple and slightly fat in FNAF 4, thin and purple in all other instances from then on.
It makes very little sense for Scott to change literally the entire concept for the main antagonist in the final entry of the story.
Don't forget TCTTC Purple Guy who is a lighter shade of purple and addressed as a Purple Guy. Miketrap is dead as a dodo I'll give you that one. Nope, Scott congratulated MatPat on his point about William not literally being purple while Michael is literally purple in his Reddit comment.
Barring the name I agree that 'pink' guy plays an important role. As I said, sprite changes.
I could accept the Shadow Animatronics being extensions of William in some vein after the details of FNAF 6's Insanity Ending but not the whole '3 Purple Guy thingy.' I can assure you there are other avenues.
But differences aside thank you for clearing up your take on the retcon, looking forward to the AFH now that's cleared up. One other thing though, Lamar's name is just a place holder for the dark-skinned Afton family member in question right because seriously the only reason your theory gets memed to death is because you chose the most unimportant minor character in the novels so clarifying that the name is a placeholder would definitely take the edge off.
Whenever a story gives you an important detail like "Rose's sword can't shatter gems", you have to wonder WHY that was important enough to put in the script. And now, finally, that point has taken center stage.
The new footage shows both little Pink, AND Titan Pink sitting in her Palanquin, and makes a point of NOT showing her gem shape in both cases. Something big did happen to Pink Diamond, and that scene of her seeming horrified as Yellow and Blue loom over her gives me the creeps.
And Steven is offically leading the Crystal Gems now.
And Rose's Shield was the only thing that could stop The Corruption Song fired by three Diamond's.
Yes, I feel very good about all of this.
I'm still not sure of what all the fallout will be, and it probably still will be quite a while before the whole truth about Pink and Steven is revealed. But my theories on are on track, and I feel like a Captain who's just piloted a ship safely through a reef in a storm.
I think I even earned some respect from The Roundtable. They reworked their Discord titles, and I'm a Knightly Patron now.
By the way Ferret just to fill you in although I'm sure you've worked it out, the forum here is going to be replaced by the new 'Discuss' format so feel free to start posting or commenting over there from now on.
It's quite simple really, you still post threads but just make sure to categorize it either under Theorists Unite or General Discussion and so forth as there are no longer separate forums. There is no post limit or picture policy right now so go nuts. The guidelines are pretty straight-forward too not that I have any real concern you of all people would break them http://freddy-fazbears-pizza.wikia.com/d/g
...CONGRATS ON COMPLETING THE SU FOLLOW UP! It was actually super captivating and definitely made the long wait worth it. You know what, I'm so pleasantly refreshed after that video I might actually give Lamar Afton another shot...I uh make no promises but I feel your ideas on all these beloved stories deserve to be heard at the very least.
Thanks. I'm very glad I could get my master Steven Universe theory out of my head and into a form where others could understand it too.
I tend to focus like a laser on one item at a time, and while I'm doing it it's hard to multitask. Now that I've finished that theory though, I can concentrate on Horcruxes and Lamar without my focus being divided.
I have reason to believe that Nightmare is in fact responsible for the phantoms as well as the system malfunctions in fnaf 3. In fact she herself appears in the form of Shadow Freddy. Remember that there is a lamp from Sister Location in Fnaf 3 right behind the window in the office.
In the twisted ones those very same lights are used to emit a strange frequency that effects how people view the twisted/nightmare animatronics based on the predisposition of the person looking at them. We hear that very frequency in fnaf 4, where we hear the garbled and reversed version of the fnaf 1 night 1 phone call. In fnaf 3 that very sound is actually the sound cue we hear when either springtrap gets close to the office or when a phantom is present.
It appears that Shadow freddy might be helping Micheal. I think this is the case because 1 she doesnt try to kill him right off the bat, and judging by the ennard like wires present all over the building she is controlling all of the artifacts, including the frequency lamp(s). The burnt look is her telling you to burn the building and destroy Springtrap, and finally free her friends. This is why she tries to appear as un-menacing as possible in her current form. This is also why Springtrap cant simply exit the building like Micheal does, because she won't let him.
Shadow Freddy and the puppet are reunited into one entity after fnaf 3, which is why the puppets mask sinks slower than the other children, she isnt dead yet, but she is whole again. And this is where candy cadets stories, specifically the woman and the 5 trapped children comes into play.
In the story the woman melts the 5 keys into 1 to open all the doors, but she ends up dooming all 5 children, It was Shadow Freddy that starts the fire in fnaf 3, she is unable to pass on because the fire failed to destroy springtrap, but it seems that the 5 children and sammy were freed.
I can guess that Sammy is free due to Springtraps sudden change in appearance and ability to speak in Fnaf 6, Sammy is no longer there to keep William imprisoned.
I need to read the Twisted Ones again, I didn't identify that the FNAF 3/Sister Location lights appeared in the book.
The sounds make a little more sense now. I hadn't read into them that deeply before. I'm still trying to figure out why Henry would risk the FNAF 6 protagonist with doing the sound stimuli checks in the first place.
Shadow Freddy.. helping Michael? Isn't she the one that bit him? Doesn't "Golden Freddy" jumping up in front of Michael's face make for the most horrifying sight out all, because there's part of HIM in that thing?
There are still a few things I don't quite understand about the phantoms. Why is Foxy missing his hook? If this are halucinations of things Michael expects to see, you'd think the hook would still be there. Although it does support that Michael has seen each of the animatronics the phantoms are based on before.
Isn't Shadow Freddy basically TRAPPED in Freddy's? She and the others are in the metal cable network, and that's an immobile thing attached to the building. Setting a fire that would surely kill her, or parts of her at least, seems counter-productive.
I don't see how me making a theory could hurt anything.
Worst case senario, I'm wrong, and I've made a fool of myself. That's my problem, not anyone else's.
Even if I get something right, it shouldn't inconvience the project. Artists get to decide when to reveal things, and they only do that at the time that's right for them.
I've promised all my viewers that I'm making Horcruxes, and after wracking my brain working on FNAF theorizing for three years, I'm finally getting a strong feeling about this theory. It might not cover everything, but it covers a LOT of things, and I believe it does make contributions to the community effort to understand FNAF.
Viewers can learn from what I get right. As well as what I get wrong.
It reaffirmed my interest in the idea that the much loved character of Sans was none other than a version of Frisk from a timeline prior to Gaster's erasure. Naturally, the script is most likely very outdated but I'd forgotten how interesting it was. How much of that is still...relevant out of interest and yes you don't need to worry about including Ness I've decided to properly give such theories another chance having combed through the Earthbound Halloween Hack (Christ that story is dark I almost want to call Undertale its sequel if only to clean my palette of such bleakness).
Well, Undertale really hasn't changed significantly since that posting, unlike FNAF which is constantly evolving. So most of what I said there is still good.
I do believe that Sans/Ness and HumanGaster/DoctorAndonuts traveled to the world of Undertale, and found themselves stuck there. (anyone can enter the Barrier, but its very difficult to leave)
Doctor Andonuts got Asgore to build him The Core, a mad scientist lair that's complete overkill for anything just designed to generate power, on the promise of finding a way to circumvent The Barrier.
The first attempt, creating dimensional portals to try and locate a reality where The Barrier doesn't exist, then simply going around it, failed.
The next plan was to collect monster souls in succifent numbers to equal the power of the 7th human soul, and break The Barrier by force.
There were two ways of going about this:
The Very Slow, Ethical(?) way was to try and collect the souls of dying monsters, using determination to prevent them from shattering. This is the plan Asgore asked Alphys to undertake, but failed when the Amalgamates were formed. (It would have failed anyway.. because the reason the Fallen Down Monsters went unresponsive in the first place is that their souls were already stolen)
But the second option, of gathering a vast amount of power (The Core) and harvesting the souls of almost all the monsters in the Underground, and creating a near-genocide of the entire Monster people, had the benefit of being very fast, and wouldn't take generations to accomplish.
Realizing that he'd never live to see the slow plan work, Gaster/Doctor Andonuts initiated The Fast Plan, and was willing to sacrifice almost all of Monsterkind just so and Ness could go home.
Which is why Ness/Sans killed him.
Sans (and Papyrus, after the patch hints) possessed Gaster Blasters, technology that could have only come from Gaster/Doctor Andonuts. And Gaster talks to two other people in his secret Lab Entry 17. Sans and Papyrus were in the room while he initiated this experiment.
Ness saved the monsters by killing one of his greatest friends. An act that darkened him, and forever cut off the True Pacifist Ending from his own efforts.
But Ness thought it still might be possible to drop the Barrier and fix things, if he could go back in time and help an earlier, innocent version of himself achieve The Good Ending.
So Ness scoured the multiverse for a version of himself that could be the real hero.
And time and time again he met with diasppointment as versions of himself went bad, the worst becoming possessed by Chara, and having to grit his teeth and fight himself.
But eventually.. he found one that was up to the challenge.
Gaster is still out there, though. And he's harvesting monster souls.
I fear for any monster that decides to stay behind in the Underground after the others leave.
Starscream1998 wrote: That'd be a cool premise for a sequel story with Asriel confronting Gaster.
Well, I'm convinced that Asriel is indeed staying around. Because not only does he have Chara's original human soul still, according to Gerson the Turtle he's also due to get his monster soul recharged with energy from Asgore and Toriel.
Whatever you say man, how have you been I imagine you've been hard at work what with the monumental task of continuing the Ferret Theory after the landscape of the lore has arguably shifted quite dramatically.